What the Daily WTF?

There are lots of titles being suggested for the badges, but I've been seeing very little in the way of criteria for awarding them.. think I'll start another thread with the requirements for suggestions.

Requirements topic for your suggestions. Your template to copy/paste is:

Bronze name:
Bronze requirements: 

Silver name: 
Silver requirements: 

Gold name: 
Gold requirements: 

Icon name:
Multiple awards:

The bronze/silver/gold names are the short titles for the awards which will appear in post headers and as short descriptions in the left column at http://what.thedailywtf.com/badges. Names between types apparently can be the same, but I'm sure you can be creative and make them sufficiently different...

The requirements will be used as criteria for awarding the badge, and will appear in the middle column of http://what.thedailywtf.com/badges

The icon name should be selected from http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/ - ~~please try to avoid the 4.1 version icons at the top of that page for the moment since I don't think DC has upgraded FA recently.~~ DC updated to 4.1.0.

Multiple awards is whether people can have more than one of them or not.

For example, for the liked posts awards:

Bronze name: Nice Post
Bronze requirements: Received 10 likes on a post

Silver name: Good Post
Silver requirements: Received 25 likes on a post

Gold name: Great Post
Gold requirements: Received 100 likes on a post

Icon name: fa-certificate
Multiple awards: Yes

There will, no doubt, be circumstances where it won't make sense to have 'levels' of award. But make it clear anyway if you feel/it is the case.

Note that this is to get firm ideas for badges rather than the free-for-all random suggestions that seems to be going on else-threads.

And no - just because you make a suggestion here, doesn't mean it'll actually get implemented. As pointed out previously, these awards will have to be manually awarded...

PJH

HardwareGeek

The bronze/silver/gold names are the short titles for the awards which will appear in post headers and as short descriptions in the left column

Are there long names/titles available anywhere? Also, if "Multiple awards" is "No," can bronze, silver and gold be still be separately awarded?

PJH

@HardwareGeek said:

Are there long names/titles available anywhere?

No. The form I have available to fill out is:

@HardwareGeek said:

Also, if "Multiple awards" is "No," can bronze, silver and gold be still be separately awarded?

Yes - you can have one of each.

Though normally (but not enforced, certainly not in software) I wouldn't normally expect anyone to get (say) Gold without first meeting the criteria for Silver and Bronze first.

Maciejasjmj

@HardwareGeek said:

Also, if "Multiple awards" is "No," can bronze, silver and gold be still be separately awarded?

If it works like SO, then yeah, I think there is no actual tie between bronze, silver, and gold version of a badge. It just makes sense to have a bronze badge be "smaller" than a gold one.

Also, do we go for the objectively assignable stuff, or can we actually get "Blakeyrant", "Pedantic dickweedery" and "Worst of the Worst" badges?

PJH

@Maciejasjmj said:

or can we actually get "Blakeyrant", "Pedantic dickweedery" and "Worst of the Worst" badges?

If you can somehow subjectively/objectively squeeze them into a 3-tier series of awards with coherent requirements, I'd probably be more inclined to give them some credence...

IOW, possibly.

PJH

Do bear in mind I'm playing this by ear at the moment, and have no idea how big the hole I'm digging either is at the moment, or is likely to be if I decide this is a very bad idea and drop it totally...

boomzilla

if I decide this is a very bad idea and drop it totally...

This could be the best outcome for us early abusers, since we could get these badges before they are no longer awarded.

Keith

This could be the best outcome for us early abusers, since we could get these badges before they are no longer awarded.

Agreed. I'm already one step ahead of the game. Behold my glorious title badge thing!

PJH

This could be the best outcome for us early abusers, since we could get these badges before they are no longer awarded.

May I draw your attention to the right hand edge of this image...

boomzilla

Don't think I didn't notice you and @Nagesh showing that shit off all over the forum.

PJH

And me! Don't forget me!!

Keith

Don't think I didn't notice you and @Nagesh showing that shit off all over the forum.

And me! Don't forget me!!

Can we have a category that everyone else can see, but only us special badge people can post in?

boomzilla

You're an admin, so you already have your trophy. I don't begrudge you having a title.

Keith

On second thought, I'm not sure if I want to be part of topics in which @Nagesh represents a third of the possible contributors...

boomzilla

us special badge people

My 7 year old likes your avatar. He's the only reason I know what it is.

Keith

My 7 year old likes your avatar. He's the only reason I know what it is.

Your 7 year old is super cool. His buildings are safe for now.

Edit: Hold on, you let a 7 year old view TDWTF forums? I'm pretty sure that's child abuse.

HardwareGeek

Bronze name: Pedantic Dickweed of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath
Bronze requirements: Awarded at the discretion of the Sovereign (or His/Her designated assistants (moderators)). Peasants may nominate worthy posts by flagging said posts for moderator attention.

Silver name: Pedantic Dickweed of the Most Noble Order of the Garter
Silver requirements: Awarded at the discretion of the Sovereign (or His/Her designated assistants (moderators)). Peasants may nominate worthy posts by flagging said posts for moderator attention.

Gold name: Pedantic Dickweed of the Most Perverse Order of the Purple Dildo
Gold requirements: Awarded at the discretion of the Sovereign (or His/Her designated assistants (moderators)). Peasants may nominate worthy posts by flagging said posts for moderator attention.

Icon name: The most suitable one would be, I think, fa-graduation-cap, but that's one of the new ones. (Any chance of DC upgrading FA, @sam?) Of the older ones, fa-book is maybe the best.
Multiple awards: No

Edit: BUG: FA has no purple dildo icon

Edit(PJH):
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/badges/1494/10?u=pjh

boomzilla

Your 7 year old is super cool. His buildings are safe for now.

We only let him play on a server I run locally, so they're safe whether you want them to be safe or not. He, OTOH, seems to have a thing about breaking stuff.

PJH

Can we have a category that everyone else can see, but only us special badge people can post in?

No. Settings are largely based on user levels plus staff categories:

Keith

so they're safe whether you want them to be safe or not

I meant from creeper attack.

Keith

No. Settings are largely based on user levels plus staff categories

I suppose you're going to have to make @Nagesh and me moderators =/.

Maciejasjmj

http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/badges/1494/11?u=pjh

a 3-tier series of awards with coherent requirements

Pretty much the only thing you can reasonably 3-tier are the "x likes", "x posts", "x days" stuff. Boooooring.

But hell, I'll try.

Bronze name: Kindling a flame
Bronze requirements: Start a thread with 50 replies

Silver name: We changed the topic anyway
Silver requirements: Start a thread with 150 replies

Gold name: PARADE!
Gold requirements: Start a thread with 300 replies

Icon name: fa-fire
Multiple awards: yes

Bronze name: WONTFIX
Bronze requirements: Have your thread locked

Icon name: fa-lock
Multiple awards: no (maybe? whatever?)

Bronze name: Well, it's a beta
Bronze requirements: Vocally support Discourse 1 time

Silver name: Stockholm Syndrome
Silver requirements: Vocally support Discourse 3 times

Gold name: Jeff's Sockpuppet
Gold requirements: Vocally support Discourse 5 times

Icon name: fa-heart(-o)
Multiple awards: no

Silver name: The Derailer
Silver requirements: Derail a thread for at least 50 posts

Icon: fa-code-fork
Multiple awards: yes(?)

Silver name: The Rat's Apprentice
Silver requirements: Evade Discourse's civil discussion policy by posting an all-caps post

Icon: fa-bullhorn
Multiple awards: no

And the last one I'm not sure how to count, but here we go:

Bronze name: Filed Under
Bronze requirements: Use 50 tags

Silver name: I miss CS
Silver requirements: Use 100 tags

Gold name: We need a new tag cloud
Gold requirements: Use 200 tags

Icon name: fa-tags
Multiple awards: no

Edit(PJH):

Frank

I'm going to analyze my list and see if I can render the list down to an acheiveable list. With a few outliers for fun and profit.

I can see these already being bronze badges.

troll
sock puppet

But need some requirements.

filed under: I know everyone will want a sock puppet badge

PJH

https://meta.discourse.org/t/when-is-trust-level-3-and-4-going-to-be-added/9429/6

I suppose you're going to have to make @Nagesh and me moderators =/.

Well there is the 'Frequent Flier's Lounge' concept mentioned here:

PJH

@Frank said:

troll
sock puppet

Hmm. X number of (separate?) nominations for the former perhaps? X=5(b),50(s),500(g)?

Second would have to be at least independently verifiable by an admin, with perhaps the recipient making it (b) obvious, (s) not at all obvious, (g) managing to make it for X posts, or Y days/weeks/monhts before being 'outed.' Possibly with opposing 'sock-puppet hunter' for the person to nominate (with reasons) the sockpuppet.

e.g. Alice successfully sock-puppets as Bob for 3 months. Charles figures out at that point that Bob is actually Alice. Admin independantly verifies the fact somehow.
Alice gets Gold Sockpuppet, Charles, for getting it, gets Gold Sockpuppet-Hunter.

One Sockpuppet award for the original account that was the puppet, hunters can get multiple.

Sounds like too much hard work though...

boomzilla

Sounds like too much hard work though...

Maybe...once we get higher level stuff, the higher level posters can nominate / vote on badge awards in addition to admin granted badges. Obviously, that requires more DC development, but it gives an easy out for stuff that's harder to quantify.

Maybe also builds Community.

Frank

My original criteria for sock puppet was like 10 posts in a row of 5-7 words or less. :)

@Luhmann would auto-qualify.

Frank

+1 for over-thinking it into oblivion.

abarker

@Maciejasjmj said:

Silver name: The Derailer
Silver requirements: Derail a thread for at least 50 posts

Icon: fa-code-fork
Multiple awards: yes(?)

I think my originally suggested name of Penny on the Track would make a good bronze version of this:

Bronze name: Penny on the Track
Bronze requirements: Derail a thread for at least 25 posts

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Cool Story, Bro - replied to a post after obviously not reading it

Keith

@abarker said:

Bronze name: Penny on the TrackBronze requirements: Derail a thread for at least 25 posts

Gold name: The wrong kind of leaves
Gold requirements: Stop a thread in its tracks for 24 hours.

Wrong sort of leaves hit train punctuality

"Teflon leaves" have been blamed by a train operator for its poor punctuality last month.

Edit: Not a serious suggestion btw >>.

abarker

Bronze name: New Look
Bronze requirements: Change avatar

Silver name: Keep 'em Guessing
Silver requirements: Change avatar 12 times in a year

Gold name: Shape Shifter
Gold requirements: Change avatar 24 times in a year

Master requirement for all three levels: Only one change per week will be counted. Also, the initial setting of the avatar would not count.

Icon name: fa-users
Multiple awards: no

Kuro

On an unrelated note, what is up with the wall of preview-text on this topic:

Filed Under: Let's derail this topic to preview-texts being TRWTF | Also, always have > 100 unread posts when taking screenshots! It adds plausibility

Onyx

So how much control is there for the requirements? Some of mine would be a pain to count and award manually.

the_dragon

Edit: Not a serious suggestion btw >>.

Why not?

the_dragon

@Frank said:

My original criteria for sock puppet was like 10 posts in a row of 5-7 words or less. :)

@Luhmann would auto-qualify.

Don't forget @Nagesh.

Luhmann

I have that remark about a lot of what was suggested here. Very nice suggestions but a little heavy on the counting/maintenance side. Requirements should really be clear and not fuzzy. How far does a post to be 'derailed' to count for the requirement? Is just taking the parallel track enough our do you need to do a 180 degree turn. And what if pull a 360?

Luhmann

Why in $Diet's name am I named in one breath with @Nagesh ? That stuff is insulting man. Even worse than making fun of Belgium.

Filled under: BELGIUM!

the_dragon

You weren't mentioned in the same breath. @Frank mentioned you, @Luhmann, then I mentioned @Nagesh .

Oops. Now you've been mentioned in the same breath as @Nagesh.

aliceif

You could eat @Luhmann so he won't ever have to hear himself get mentioned alongside @Nagesh again!

Nagesh

@Luhmann said:

That stuff is insulting man. Even worse than making of Belgium.

You should feel honoured that you are becoming like me.

Zecc

Name: Discourse Survivor
Requirements: Was an active poster in CS, is still an active poster in Discourse
Icon name: fa-comment
Multiple awards: no

We could assign different levels based on how many posts have been made in Discourse or how long they've been active after the transition.

PJH

@abarker said:

Change avatar

Difficult to track I'm afraid....

@Kuro said:

On an unrelated note, what is up with the wall of preview-text on this topic:

I'll have a play with the text of that first post to see if I can improve it...

@Onyx said:

So how much control is there for the requirements? Some of mine would be a pain to count and award manually.

Any tracking would normally be manual - see avatar suggestion above.

abarker

@abarker said:
Change avatar

Difficult to track I'm afraid....

Feature request! Ability to track avatar changes per user.

Nagesh

@abarker said:

@PJH said:
Difficult to track I'm afraid....

Feature request! Ability to track avatar changes per user.

Not desirable, since it is useless.

PJH

@Kuro said:
On an unrelated note, what is up with the wall of preview-text on this topic:

I'll have a play with the text of that first post to see if I can improve it...

Nope. I tried to copy the format of the default first post when creating a new category of:

[summary text to appear in summary]


Rest of post to be read when clicked

but that didn't work as expected. @Sam? Any way of indicating the cut-off point for the summary in the topic list for a pinned topic?

PJH

@Kuro said:

On an unrelated note, what is up with the wall of preview-text on this topic:

Hacked with the (ab)use of multiple  . Not exactly desirable, but looks a bit better...

Maciejasjmj