Report on my last poll topic

mott555

I can't even load it. Just hangs, and my browser maxes out a CPU core and never gets anywhere.

I'm not sure how many entries I used, but at one point I got an error stating 32000 characters is the maximum post size, so I made each option small so I could have more poll options.

Filed Under: Yay I just DOS'd my own thread!

Onyx

Some people managed to reply... somewhat.

chubertdev

Yup, I can't get in it at all.

mott555

I think I just invented a new JavaScript benchmark.

GOG

Me, I just kill the script the first chance I get. This seems to have the unexpected consequence of having to reload the main page after I get out.

Onyx

I can load it, somewhat... Stopping JS manages to load 4699 items on last attempt... Hitting continue after that doesn't seem to do too much other than killing FF dead. Also, onclick events don't attach to anything below the first post, like suggested topics.

@mott555 how many items are there really?

mott555

@Onyx said:

@mott555 how many items are there really?

I generated the list with a quick-and-dirty C# console app.

mott555

Bonus bug! Discourse renders a 1 when I typed in 4699!! @codinghorror

Onyx

@mott555 said:

I generated the list with a quick-and-dirty C# console app.

Well I figured you didn't do it by hand.

@mott555 said:

Bonus bug! Discourse renders a 1 when I typed in 4699!!

Who are you, how are you doing this, and do you live in a country/state that allows gay marriage?

mott555

@cvi said:

Replying seems to work, but the list doesn't show up as a poll for me - just as a plain unordered list. (Maybe this is related to stopping that script using Firefox's timeout dialog?)

I'm posting a response here because the other thread is going to literally melt down my PC.

I kept clicking "Continue Script" and it did eventually turn into a poll. However the page isn't really usable at that point, it pegs my CPU and takes a long time to respond to any keyboard/mouse input.

faoileag

@mott555 said:

I can't even load it. Just hangs, and my browser maxes out a CPU core and never gets anywhere.

There is a whole chapter devoted on concurrency and on how not to render the browser unusable by long-running operations in David Herman's "Effective JavaScript".

Filed under: hint

cvi

@mott555 said:

I kept clicking "Continue Script" and it did eventually turn into a poll. However the page isn't really usable at that point, it pegs my CPU and takes a long time to respond to any keyboard/mouse input.

Ok, yeah, clicking on "Continue" a couple of times turns it into a poll. I think I even managed to vote. After voting things broke down completely, though.

I'm a bit curious to what's going on. I don't really know anything about Discourse/JavaScript/whatever, but I'm not terribly impressed when something with just a couple of thousand items manages to floor my relatively high-end desktop machine. It seems like somebody, somewhere must be doing something wrong...

HardwareGeek

@mott555 said:

Bonus bug! Discourse renders a 1 when I typed in 4699!!

WONTFIX. Markdown; works as designed. Starting a line with a number starts an ordered list (at 1), no matter the number is.

Onyx

@cvi said:

I'm a bit curious to what's going on.

I'm a bit disappointed it didn't result in "Too much recursion" myself.

mott555

@faoileag said:

There is a whole chapter devoted on concurrency and on how not to render the browser unusable by long-running operations in David Herman's "Effective JavaScript".

It's ironic that the massive gains in multithreading and multitasking over the past two decades, both at the hardware and OS levels, is not relevant because HTML/DOM/browser (the most popular app platform ever) uses a single-threaded cooperative multitasking scheme that became obsolete shortly after I was born.

riking

There is a workaround.
Just do this.

<ol start="1000004698">
<li>There is a workaround.</li>
<li>Just do this.</li></ol>

http://what.thedailywtf.com/raw/973/16?u=riking

mott555

How is that a workaround?

Onyx

Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have the makings of a Signature guy here!

Filed under: Let the abuse begin

PJH

Item 1 Line 1 line 2 line 3
Item2

--- Filed under: [Interesting.cn...][1]

HardwareGeek

@mott555 said:

How is that a workaround?

It appears intended to be a way to start a list at something other than 1. It is clearly not a workaround for the problem of starting a line with a number without turning it into a list. And it certainly does break Discurse's formatting in an interesting way. I'm not at all sure how it manages to do that.

ender

@mott555 said:

I'm not sure how many entries I used, but at one point I got an error stating 32000 characters is the maximum post size, so I made each option small so I could have more poll options.

You should have used letters, too - that would've let you put more entries.

cvi

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Filed under: Layout tragedy, That would result in badness points in LaTeX

mott555

I forgot to mention the VERY poor performance of the preview window when I pasted that list in. Now I admit what I did was certainly abusive, but the preview window stole my CPU for several minutes before I was able to click the submit button and I wasn't expecting that.

GOG

This post is deleted!

Arantor

How many hamsters running in your rig? 2.4GHz means 2,400,000,000 hamster power, right?

mott555

I guess I need to download more hamsters!

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That's how Markdown works.

It’s important to note that the actual numbers you use to mark the list have no effect on the HTML output Markdown produces.

So

twenty-five
one thousand and one
six

is

25. twenty-five
1001. one thousand and one
6. six

Arantor

That doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Surely it should only be working if the first item is a 1 (and not any other number)? Based on the idea of what the user seems to want to express, at least.

mott555

I figured it was something to do with Markdown, but it just doesn't feel right that it works that way. Someone asked me a question requiring a numeric answer, I answered with a number, and Discourse swapped my number out for a totally different one.

I guess I just prefer the good-old-fashioned

[list]
[] Item 1
[] Item 2
[/list]

because there's no way of accidentally starting a list with a simple reply.

Arantor

Unless you're SMF in which case that will break excitingly (since [*] is magic markup for "I want a list here" and it otherwise wants explicit [li] tags for list items and [*] implies a list and li combination of magic voodoo)

I guess this is one of the things I hate about Markdown in general and specifically about DC's take on it - is that it's practically tag soup and I don't know what I can expect my content to look like without the preview window. Or it encourages me not to write anything other than simple paragraphs of text which probably won't misbehave.

HardwareGeek

@codinghorror said:

That's how Markdown works.

Knew I'd read that somewhere.

@Arantor said:

That doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

@mott555 said:

it just doesn't feel right that it works that way.

Strongly agree.

@Arantor said:

tag soup and I don't know what I can expect

Yep!

chubertdev

There are three types of collections.

0 items
1 item
sod off, that's what Markdown does

Frank

You have mad DoS skillz...

sam

Correction, this is how sucky markdown original spec works (which we often depart from).

Pandoc and Cheapskate do something sane here:

Babelmark 2 - Compare markdown implementations

100. test

Pandoc

<ol start="100" style="list-style-type: decimal">
<li>test</li>
</ol>

Overall, I find pandoc is the best spec to emulate and the best markdown parser + extensions by a mile.

Arantor

See, that I like. That makes more sense than ignoring what the user typed in favour of what you think the user meant to say ;)

faoileag

@HardwareGeek said:

And it certainly does break Discurse's formatting in an interesting way.

I see what you have done there.

faoileag

@mott555 said:

it just doesn't feel right that it works that way. Someone asked me a question requiring a numeric answer, I answered with a number, and Discourse swapped my number out for a totally different one.

It's just one of the many ways the editor works against the user using it. Like, when you just want to post a line in quotes ("this_is_a_line"), you have to use "this_is_a_line".

Is the answer to the big question. Only not when some parser is auto-detecting lists.

42. Is what you get if you put the number in backticks. But that, of course, is a workaround.

HardwareGeek

@faoileag said:

I see what you have done there.

I've done that quite a few times. The first time, I even specifically drew attention to it, noting that it had been a typo that I started to fix but decided to leave as-is for obvious reasons.

Nagesh

@chubertdev said:

Yup, I can't get in it at all.

Filed under: That's what she said?

hungrier

#55. Numbers work correctly when prefixed with a number sign.

Onyx

@hungrier said:

55. Numbers work correctly when prefixed with a number sign.

For varying interpretations of "work".

Oh, and look what the quote dragged in.

riking

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