Today I am noticing one advert on stackoverflow careers.



  • It has a section on spirtual growth.

     

    Spiritual Growth

    • Continue to grow as a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ
    • Spend daily time in prayer and in the Word
    • Pursue Integrity, Serving, Teamwork and Excellence both privately and publicly
    • Be a member of a local church
    • Foster a coachable, approachable, humble spirit

     

     

    http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/42929/senior-net-developer-code-for-a-cause-fellowship-of-christian?a=Qm6IT6Sc

     

    Is this ok in US of A? In my secular country of India, such items are illegal to advertise.



  •  I had a spiritual growth a few years ago, but they were able to remove it.



  • @Nagesh said:

    Is this ok in US of A?

    It depends on some different things.  Like a business can't say they won't hire you because of your faith, but some places can do some restrictions (like a church looking for a priest can say the priest needs to be of the right faith).



  • @da Doctah said:

     I had a spiritual growth a few years ago, but they were able to remove it.

     

     

    ISKCON and Sri Sri Ravishankar are best growers in my opine.

     



  • @Nagesh said:

    Is this ok in US of A?
    In general, no. However, there are execptions for small employers and religious institutions. Specifically, "religious organizations are permitted to give employment preference to members of their own religion." Without having read the actual ad, this looks like it might qualify.


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    @HardwareGeek said:

    @Nagesh said:
    Is this ok in US of A?

    In general, no. However, there are execptions for small employers and religious institutions. Specifically, "religious organizations are permitted to give employment preference to members of their own religion." Without having read the actual ad, this looks like it might qualify.

    Yeah, the url was giving us a hint, but following it, we find some information about the employer:

    @TFA said:

    About Fellowship Of Christian Athletes

    The Fellowship of Christian Athletes is touching millions of lives… one heart at a time. Since 1954, FCA has been challenging coaches and athletes on the professional, college, high school, junior high and youth levels to use the powerful medium of athletics to impact the world for Jesus Christ.

    Working for nonprofits can involve taking a pay cut to work on something that you think is doing good in the world. And the spiritual growth section seems perfectly in line with the job and the organization.



  • Wouldn't this fall under making sure the new hire fits the team?

    I mean, suppose you're the only atheist in a small company of christians, or the other way around, would you not sometimes feel uncomfortable, even though strictly speaking religion has no place on the work floor and strictly speaking we're all adults?

     

    Could be that I'm full of shit on this one, though, since my only data point is the (moderate) muslim in our company, and he's doing perfectly fine.


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    @dhromed said:

    Wouldn't this fall under making sure the new hire fits the team?

    It does that, too, but sometimes you can't formally specify why.

    @dhromed said:

    I mean, suppose you're the only atheist in a small company of christians, or the other way around, would you not sometimes feel uncomfortable, even though strictly speaking religion has no place on the work floor and strictly speaking we're all adults?

    Imagine a hip hop record label included "must be African American" in a job requirement for a software development job. It might be that a white guy really wouldn't fit in, but you can't say that out loud as a precondition. But you could still reject an applicant for reasons of compatibility, as long as you don't use the R word.

    But stuff like religion is special, because both the employer and the employee have rights regarding their practice of religion, so compromises must be made somewhere.



  • @boomzilla said:

    @dhromed said:
    Wouldn't this fall under making sure the new hire fits the team?

    It does that, too, but sometimes you can't formally specify why.

    @dhromed said:

    I mean, suppose you're the only atheist in a small company of christians, or the other way around, would you not sometimes feel uncomfortable, even though strictly speaking religion has no place on the work floor and strictly speaking we're all adults?

    Imagine a hip hop record label included "must be African American" in a job requirement for a software development job. It might be that a white guy really wouldn't fit in, but you can't say that out loud as a precondition. But you could still reject an applicant for reasons of compatibility, as long as you don't use the R word.

    But stuff like religion is special, because both the employer and the employee have rights regarding their practice of religion, so compromises must be made somewhere.

    Unfortunately, the US bill of rights only provides freedom of religion, not freedom of skin color or music taste.

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    @boomzilla said:

    The Fellowship of Christian Athletes is touching millions of lives… one heart at a time.
     

    With cardiovascular-injected anabolic steroids and pseudoephedrine.


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    @Ben L. said:

    Unfortunately, the US bill of rights only provides freedom of religion, not freedom of skin color or music taste.

    Ah, so that's why Michael Jackson had to be killed.



  • @boomzilla said:

    @Ben L. said:
    Unfortunately, the US bill of rights only provides freedom of religion, not freedom of skin color or music taste.

    Ah, so that's why Michael Jackson had to be killed.

     

    He was an infadel kafir.



  •  Another stackoverflow ad, that I am liking:

     

    I hope that you’re talented, fast and like beer. Here’s some stuff I’d like to see:

    • Expert knowledge with Android development
    • Proficient Java developer with strong Debug and troubleshooting skills
    • Strong team player that works well alongside others with differing opinions
    • Well-versed in Android OS fragmentation and various Hardware version limitations/features.
    • Knowledgeable of Google Play submission guidelines and review process
    • Able to intelligently manage QA tasks and deflect new feature requests
    • Working knowledge of Adobe Software

    If you've worked with these technologies, I like you already:

    • Experience with Barcode reader libraries
    • Experience with Google Ad Words
    • Familiarity with New Relic analytics
    • Experience with a BaaS (Backend as a Service) such as Parse or StackMob
    • Familiarity with SMTP vendors such as Mandrill or SendGrid
    • Familiarity with Cloud Vendors such as AWS, Heroku, Rackspace or Azure
    • Wine Snob or Beer Snob- Awesome

     


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    @Ben L. said:

    Unfortunately, the US bill of rights only provides freedom of religion, not freedom of skin color or music taste.

    Maybe not the bill of rights, but race certainly is a protected attribute by law.


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