Google getting more helpful by the day
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So I wanted to know about the history of the reset button found on PCs. After searching for "pc reset button" I didn't quite get what I want, so I added "history of", quite unambiguous one might think. But one thinks incorrectly:
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Try formulating your search as a question. Apparently Google has gotten better at that since their "Hummingbird" search engine
improvementupdate.
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Google is now like detectives in any major police department. They don't waste time or energy trying to figure things out, they jump to conclusions. Woman murdered? Arrest the husband. Jewels gone? Arrest the maid. Search for anything that include "history"? Return results about clearing the browser cache.
Most of the time and for most of the people it works, so in the great scheme of things, it's all good.
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@Ronald said:
Most of the time and for most of the people it works, so in the great scheme of things, it's all good.
It's because of all those tubes being clogged with porn, and people wanting to clear their history to avoid judgement. I think what we really need is an internet fast lane. Apologies for the full-screen, on youtube it seems to start at 24 minutes for some reason (I thought that was only supposed to happen if you supply an argument. I clearly don't understand these internets).
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@Shoreline said:
@Ronald said:
Most of the time and for most of the people it works, so in the great scheme of things, it's all good.
It's because of all those tubes being clogged with porn, and people wanting to clear their history to avoid judgement. I think what we really need is an internet fast lane. Apologies for the full-screen, on youtube it seems to start at 24 minutes for some reason (I thought that was only supposed to happen if you supply an argument. I clearly don't understand these internets).
The Internet Fast Lane is the digital equivalent of Eugenics. That makes you an e-nazi.
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@Ronald said:
@Shoreline said:
@Ronald said:
Most of the time and for most of the people it works, so in the great scheme of things, it's all good.
It's because of all those tubes being clogged with porn, and people wanting to clear their history to avoid judgement. I think what we really need is an internet fast lane. Apologies for the full-screen, on youtube it seems to start at 24 minutes for some reason (I thought that was only supposed to happen if you supply an argument. I clearly don't understand these internets).
The Internet Fast Lane is the digital equivalent of Eugenics. That makes you an e-nazi.
E-Nazi is my public image ltd. cover band.
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@Faraday said:
Try formulating your search as a question. Apparently Google has gotten better at that since their "Hummingbird" search engine
improvementupdate.Any more useless statements?
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@fire2k said:
Any more useless statements?
No, but when I put quotes around "pc reset button," I get results about the PC reset button. Nothing about the history of it, but at least about it. Plus, this thread, of course.
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@boomzilla said:
@fire2k said:
This. Without the quotes, Google assumes that "reset" is synonymous with "clear", which is usually reasonable.Any more useless statements?
No, but when I put quotes around "pc reset button," I get results about the PC reset button. Nothing about the history of it, but at least about it. Plus, this thread, of course.
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@pbean said:
So I wanted to know about the history of the reset button found on PCs. After searching for "pc reset button" I didn't quite get what I want, so I added "history of", quite unambiguous one might think. But one thinks incorrectly:
A while back, I got sick of Google guessing (incorrectly) what I wanted and switched to DuckDuckGo. It gets this one right:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8F7VGUv.png?2[/IMG]
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@RobFreundlich said:
@pbean said:
Needs more jpeg:So I wanted to know about the history of the reset button found on PCs. After searching for "pc reset button" I didn't quite get what I want, so I added "history of", quite unambiguous one might think. But one thinks incorrectly:
A while back, I got sick of Google guessing (incorrectly) what I wanted and switched to DuckDuckGo. It gets this one right:
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@RobFreundlich said:
A while back, I got sick of Google guessing (incorrectly) what I wanted and switched to DuckDuckGo.
The problem with DuckDuckGo is that you cannot have fun looking at the auto-complete suggestions, like when I type "why my brother" in Google.
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@Ronald said:
The problem with DuckDuckGo is that you cannot have fun looking at the auto-complete suggestions, like when I type "why my brother" in Google.
www.google.com?complete=0
Fuck things doing shit while I'm typing.
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@Lorne Kates said:
@Ronald said:
The problem with DuckDuckGo is that you cannot have fun looking at the auto-complete suggestions, like when I type "why my brother" in Google.
www.google.com?complete=0
Fuck things doing shit while I'm typing.
Try entering tags in CS.
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@Lorne Kates said:
@joe.edwards said:
www.google.com?complete=0
Try entering tags in CS.Fuck things doing shit while I'm typing.
I don't use tags.
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@Lorne Kates said:
Fuck things doing shit while I'm typing.
Things doing shit is my raison d'etre.
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@boomzilla said:
@fire2k said:
Any more useless statements?
No, but when I put quotes around "pc reset button," I get results about the PC reset button. Nothing about the history of it, but at least about it. Plus, this thread, of course.
So when you search for something different you get different results?
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@fire2k said:
@boomzilla said:
Pretty shocking, huh? The more literate among us will have noticed that I didn't say it was a useless statement.@fire2k said:
Any more useless statements?
No, but when I put quotes around "pc reset button," I get results about the PC reset button. Nothing about the history of it, but at least about it. Plus, this thread, of course.So when you search for something different you get different results?
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@pbean said:
I'm not sure this is google's fault. What kind of answers were you expecting to get? Ctrl-Alt-Del has a history, like how it was invented and got adopted and its changing meanings over time, but the reset button doesn't. It's just a button. It connects the CPU's reset pin to ground, generally via a debounce circuit. It was a commonplace feature on many early micros (although a lot of the cheap home ones saved money by omitting it and leaving the user to power-cycle if the thing crashed really hard) and when IBM came to design the PC it was just an obvious thing that you put on computer designs. It's been the same since then and hasn't changed.So I wanted to know about the history of the reset button found on PCs. After searching for "pc reset button" I didn't quite get what I want, so I added "history of", quite unambiguous one might think. But one thinks incorrectly:
So, I don't think it really has any history worthy of the name. No wonder google can't find it for you.
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@DaveK said:
Ctrl-Alt-Del has a history, like how it was invented and got adopted and its changing meanings over time, but the reset button doesn't. It's just a button. It connects the CPU's reset pin to ground, generally via a debounce circuit. It was a commonplace feature on many early micros (although a lot of the cheap home ones saved money by omitting it and leaving the user to power-cycle if the thing crashed really hard) and when IBM came to design the PC it was just an obvious thing that you put on computer designs. It's been the same since then and hasn't changed.
In a rather roundabout way, I believe pbean just got the answers he was searching for.
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@DaveK said:
It's just a button. It connects the CPU's reset pin to ground, generally via a debounce circuit. It was a commonplace feature on many early micros (although a lot of the cheap home ones saved money by omitting it and leaving the user to power-cycle if the thing crashed really hard) and when IBM came to design the PC it was just an obvious thing that you put on computer designs. It's been the same since then and hasn't changed.
I did a quick search of Google Images and none of IBM's models from the 80s (PC, PC-XT, PC-AT, PS/2) appear to have reset buttons. Whether or not IBM popularized the reset button, or when the reset button became common is unclear.I do know that IBM's PS/2 line introduced in the late 80s was one of the very first PCs to put the power switch on the front of the computer. Everyone had the switch on the back of the computer directly attached to the power supply. A friend bought a PS/2 and when he opened it up I was a bit surprised to see a metal rod connecting the front panel power switch to a switch on the power supply.
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@El_Heffe said:
I do know that IBM's PS/2 line introduced in the late 80s was one of the very first PCs to put the power switch on the front of the computer. Everyone had the switch on the back of the computer directly attached to the power supply. A friend bought a PS/2 and when he opened it up I was a bit surprised to see a metal rod connecting the front panel power switch to a switch on the power supply.
Why? it is easier and safer than many of the alternatives.....or was the surprise that it wasn't made of wood?
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@El_Heffe said:
@DaveK said:
It's just a button. It connects the CPU's reset pin to ground, generally via a debounce circuit. It was a commonplace feature on many early micros (although a lot of the cheap home ones saved money by omitting it and leaving the user to power-cycle if the thing crashed really hard) and when IBM came to design the PC it was just an obvious thing that you put on computer designs. It's been the same since then and hasn't changed.
I did a quick search of Google Images and none of IBM's models from the 80s (PC, PC-XT, PC-AT, PS/2) appear to have reset buttons. Whether or not IBM popularized the reset button, or when the reset button became common is unclear.I do know that IBM's PS/2 line introduced in the late 80s was one of the very first PCs to put the power switch on the front of the computer. Everyone had the switch on the back of the computer directly attached to the power supply. A friend bought a PS/2 and when he opened it up I was a bit surprised to see a metal rod connecting the front panel power switch to a switch on the power supply.
By the late 80's and early 90's it was pretty standard on PCs, rising alongside either the 286 or 386 clones. Right alongside the turbo button.
It wasn't until the original ATX standard came into play in 1995 when the power switch was moved to the motherboard that the reset button was moved there as well.
Well, you could always change the voltage rating on your PSU to whatever wasn't your wall voltage. That worked too -- unless it fried your system.