The Good Old Days



  • Whatever happened to the good old days of web consulting?

    Remember back when you were the only one on your block who knew HTML?

    Remember when people would come to you and ask you to build them a webpage? And they would pay whatever fee you asked?

    You can't do that now, can you?

    That won't fly with the little old lady who is now running her own Beanie Baby business on eBay. She's quite savvy, isn't she? As a matter of fact, she could tell you a thing or two about shopping carts and SSL.

    It's funny how times change. You can no longer charge $100/hr. just to "post a new Javascript addition". Or charge the obligatory $50 "consultation fee" to "map out their website".

    Nowadays, the average user is very internet savvy. They even know not to purchase Frontpage because of a little thing called Open Source. Home web development has entered the free-of-charge era.

    That's why it's amazing for me to see a programmer's website where they are offering their services for a fee...even if it is a very small fee. Do people still fall for that? I'm curious. It's 2005, not 1996.



  • I am familiar with such corporate consulting groups. They want to charge you $2000 to add some "Javascript pop-up functionality" to your website.

    Um...hello? I too can copy & paste a snippet of Javascript code from the internet thank you very much. And I can do that for free...in under a minute. I shouldn't have to shell out $2000 for some "consultant" to "evaluate the pros and cons of Javascript implementation" on my site.

    It's amazing what people pay for.



  • That's why it's amazing for me to see a programmer's website where they are offering their services for a fee...even if it is a very small fee. Do people still fall for that? I'm curious. It's 2005, not 1996.

    Ofcourse people still "fall for that" - lots of people know a thing or two about websites, especially if they've had one for a couple of years now, but the big advantage of paying someone to build a website for you is that it saves you money. (provided you get someone who knows what (s)he's doing).

    If you can get a decent, clear, well thought out small website for about $1000 from an experienced developer/designer (who can build it in a day or 2, 3), you're cheaper off than building it yourself, and you get a better site, generally.

    That is, unless your time is cheap or you want to learn the techniques, tricks and gotchas yourself.

    By the way, currently I recieve about half my income from creating and adapting open-source programs for third parties who don't have the technical savvy to do it themselves.




  • @joodie said:

    By the way, currently I recieve about half my income from creating and adapting open-source programs for third parties who don't have the technical savvy to do it themselves.

    I do apologize if I've insulted you or your profession in any way.



  • I do apologize if I've insulted you or your profession in any way.



    I
    didn't think it was insulting to me or my profession :-) I was just
    trying to point out that it's possible to get money for/from open
    source software. For some reason lot's of people have a hard time
    understanding that that's possible.





  • and WTF is up with the font size?




  • @CPound said:

    I am familiar with such corporate consulting
    groups. They want to charge you $2000 to add some "Javascript pop-up
    functionality" to your website.

    Um...hello? I too can copy & paste a snippet of Javascript code from the internet thank you very much. And I can do that for free...in under a minute. I shouldn't have to shell out $2000 for some "consultant" to "evaluate the pros and cons of Javascript implementation" on my site.

    It's amazing what people pay for.

    Yep. It's amazing what people think other people will pay for, too. Consider Carl. I should mention that Carl's also a juge (that's huger than huge!) sleazeball, since after SimCity Central (.net) was created, he registered the .com and redirected it to his own SimCity forum (3 posts, all made by him), registered at the SCC.net forums, and bragged about it. But I digress.

    He wants $35/hour if you want "scripting". And last time I checked, <meta /> wasn't "scripting". And it's crappy webhosting and I wouldn't trust the guy to design anything.

    You really have to see it to believe it. And make sure the dog's not under your chair, because you'll be ROFL!</badmetaphortypething>



  • Lookup 'webdesing' on Google.

    97000 hits of people who can't spell webdesign properly.

    The 1st hit (the amazing retecool) by the way is a Dutch site that makes fun of webdesigners [:P]

    Try some of the links for 'Webdesing woensdag'

    Drak



  • On of the links lead to a company that says they designed this site:

    http://barbiepagina.port5.com/

    The menu sort of doesn't work for me. Anyone else getting strange php texts?

    Drak



  • @Drak said:

    Lookup 'webdesing' on Google.

    That's because the combination 'ing' is very common in the Dutch language. The combination 'ign' is almost unnatural in the Dutch language. So many Dutch words just end with 'ing'. And I guess most of those 97.000 hits are generated by Dutch webdesingers... [:P]

     

    (Spelling error made on purpose!)


  • BINNED

    @Katja said:

    That's because the combination 'ing' is very common in the Dutch language. The combination 'ign' is almost unnatural in the Dutch language. So many Dutch words just end with 'ing'.

    So true


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    @CPound said:

    It's 2005, not 1996



  • It's ten years later and largely nothing has changed, just the terminology.


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