How much money are you paying to your cell phone provider?
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OR are you going prepaid and saving like me? I am going prepaid, but once I get my dream iPhone I will be having to go to data plan. This means cell phone company will rob me of my precious hard-earned money.
What is the scene where you are? Tell me name of country and the plan that you have subscribed to.
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@Nagesh said:
OR are you going prepaid and saving like me? I am going prepaid, but once I get my dream iPhone I will be having to go to data plan. This means cell phone company will rob me of my precious hard-earned money.
What is the scene where you are? Tell me name of country and the plan that you have subscribed to.
Um, unless they are forcing you to buy a smartphone and its data plan, how is that robbery?
I consider my phone to be too smart as it is, and it is 4 years old and doesn't even boast an "operating system" (Moto SLVR, because wrds wtht vwls r cl!). I think the most advanced feature it has is the camera, which I didn't want anyway but was the only way to get a candy-bar phone (seriously, what was up with flip phones back there about 4-6 years ago? Daft...) Actually, I consider any phone that has to "boot" as too smart.
So, I have the "just give me call time. No texts, no internet, none of that crap. Just phone" plan. I could probably cut the minutes down from what I have even; 450 seems to be too many, but I don't know that they offer fewer. (Yes, I had to call three levels deep into service to actually have them block SMS reception, because I refuse to pay every time someone tried to send me a text. I don't mind the idea of paying to send one, but charging for reception of something you can't ignore - I can refuse to answer a call after all - is just Evil.)
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I have an older Windows Mobile 6.0 smartphone from US Cellular. I don't know how many minutes I have but it's more than I use, but I have unlimited data and unlimited texting. It only costs $35/month, but I share a family plan with others.
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Incoming SMS charges? What backward country are you in?
[b]Market forces power too strong to resist![/b]
In India (no charge for incoming SMS). We send text to each other all time.@too_many_usernames said:
@Nagesh said:
OR are you going prepaid and saving like me? I am going prepaid, but once I get my dream iPhone I will be having to go to data plan. This means cell phone company will rob me of my precious hard-earned money.
What is the scene where you are? Tell me name of country and the plan that you have subscribed to.
Um, unless they are forcing you to buy a smartphone and its data plan, how is that robbery?
I consider my phone to be too smart as it is, and it is 4 years old and doesn't even boast an "operating system" (Moto SLVR, because wrds wtht vwls r cl!). I think the most advanced feature it has is the camera, which I didn't want anyway but was the only way to get a candy-bar phone (seriously, what was up with flip phones back there about 4-6 years ago? Daft...) Actually, I consider any phone that has to "boot" as too smart.
So, I have the "just give me call time. No texts, no internet, none of that crap. Just phone" plan. I could probably cut the minutes down from what I have even; 450 seems to be too many, but I don't know that they offer fewer. (Yes, I had to call three levels deep into service to actually have them block SMS reception, because I refuse to pay every time someone tried to send me a text. I don't mind the idea of paying to send one, but charging for reception of something you can't ignore - I can refuse to answer a call after all - is just Evil.)
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$35 = Rs 1610 approx. I think it is good deal considering purchasing power parety.
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I currently use a android galaxy S and pay about 25 euro/month for my phone plan, which includes internet.
I can't be bothered to look for the best bargain deal, i make enough money to have the subscription and get a new phone every 2 years.
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In 2008 I was in the hospital and when I got transferred to another building, my phone somehow got lost in the shuffle. I never replaced it and haven't missed it.
Anybody can call me any time they want? Fuck You.
Somebody who I don't want to talk to can call me and it gets charged against my monthly allowance of minutes? Fuck You.
If you want to talk to me call my home or office phone. If I'm not there, leave a message. That's what voice mail is for. You're not so important that I need to talk to you at your every whim.
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I'm in Australia. Here, the three main mobile carriers are Telstra, Optus and Vodafone (affectionately known as Hellstra, Droptus and Vodafail respectively). If you want the best coverage and the best speeds (they've got a 21mbps 3.5G mobile network in the capital cities, and it can hit pretty high speeds almost everywhere else) and don't care about price and are willing to go into the stores as opposed to ringing the call centres, then you go Telstra. If you want value and don't give a damn about data speeds or brilliant coverage, you go Optus. If you want to get screwed around and suffer a shitty, shitty network, you go Vodafail.
I used to be on Virgin, a subsidiary of Optus, but they somehow screwed up and gave me a Nokia E63 that didn't support most of their 3G network (their network is 900/2100, somehow a store that dealt solely with Optus, Virgin and Vodafail got their hands on an 850/2100 E63, which would be good for Telstra), and I never bothered chasing it up. For $34 a month, nothing upfront, I got the phone, 70MB data and $300 worth of calls and text messages. (Fact: it is entirely possible to blow that data limit by about 100MB on a shitty 2G network. I kid you not, I did it.)I've now got a HTC Desire on Telstra, which is lovely because the speeds are indeed awesome, as is the coverage (on a ~500km car trip, I had one complete drop out for no more than thirty seconds about 2km outside of a tiny, tiny town on the highway. Not bad. For it, I paid nothing upfront, and $49 a month. There is an issue with my plan at the moment, though: something broke it when I increased the data allowance for one month and I couldn't downgrade it, so they've arranged for the extra $10 that the data pack costs me to be credited to my account. Which would be great and all but credits can take up to three billing cycles to appear. How lovely. So, at the moment I'm paying $59\month.
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@El_Heffe said:
Somebody who I don't want to talk to can call me and it gets charged against my monthly allowance of minutes? Fuck You.
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Someone who calls you doesn't cost you money or minutes.
Unless all your providers are retarded.
I have a tardphone. My next one may be several years from now, and may be a smartphone. Because why not?
Still have to investigate the money. Given the current state of packages and my phoning behaviour, a subscription may turn out cheaper than prepaid. But eh.
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Thanks to a 10+ year old PAYG SIM , I pay about £5 per month on average, for what (to me) functions as unlimited free calling (100 minutes a month). To get the same without the old SIM would cost me about £10 per month PAYG, at which point I would be better off getting the cheapest contract around.
I hate talking on the phone, though. And whenever I look at contracts, I always end up totalling up the amount and deciding the money would buy something nicer than a phone :)
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@intertravel said:
Thanks to a 10+ year old PAYG SIM , I pay about £5 per month on average, for what (to me) functions as unlimited free calling (100 minutes a month). To get the same without the old SIM would cost me about £10 per month PAYG, at which point I would be better off getting the cheapest contract around.
Same. My D600 is as fast and fluid as the day I bought it and topping up with £10 every 5 or 6 months seems the best way.
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@dhromed said:
Someone who calls you doesn't cost you money or minutes.
Unless all your providers are retarded.
In the US, minutes are minutes are minutes. OTOH, calling to or receiving from a cell phone (from whatever) doesn't cost any extra.
About 90% of my calls are to/from my wife (usually from a store, "Um...what else did we need?"). We have a family plan, and way more minutes than we use, especially considering that in network (Verizon) calls are free, as are nights and weekends. I think we get a few free texts per month, but we rarely send any. I know that sending pictures usually costs $0.25, but that happens pretty rarely, so whatever.
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@Douglasac said:
If you want the best coverage and the best speeds (they've got a 21mbps 3.5G mobile network in the capital cities, and it can hit pretty high speeds almost everywhere else) and don't care about price and are willing to go into the stores as opposed to ringing the call centres, then you go Telstra. If you want value and don't give a damn about data speeds or brilliant coverage, you go Optus. If you want to get screwed around and suffer a shitty, shitty network, you go Vodafail.
Heh, even Optus has a 3G network faster than the "4G" networks in the USA, according to what I've read - for example AT&T calling their "6Mbps" HSPA+ network "4G". I have a netbook on Optus and it connects at 7.2Mbps, and I often get over 700 kbytes/sec, so actual speed is close to the advertised speed. And it works in most places, though it does drop during my train journey when in the middle of no-where (northern Gold Coast), but I haven't tested Telstra. The Optus 900MHz 2G network still works there - so it would just be the 2100MHz dropping out on a moving train.
On the whole the Optus network is quite good. I have heard of heaps of issues with Virgin, though, so maybe they aren't as well equipped? The office moved premises and was on a Optus 3G reseller (Internode) while we were waiting for ADSL to be connected - the 3G was faster in some cases!
@Douglasac said:
For $34 a month, nothing upfront, I got the phone, 70MB data and $300 worth of calls and text messages.
I used to pay $33 a month (my plan started before GST came in, so it was originally $30) which included $30(+GST) of calls. Initially SMS, data, etc was not included in that credit, but it was included later. GPRS data was 0.55c per KB (yes, $0.0055 - they weren't doing a Verizon, even if still heller expensive, but on my then 6310 I didn't use much). The advantage of that plan was free evenings (to other Optus mobiles) and weekends (to any Australian mobile), though calls during the week were getting expensive. It also had credit rollover, so unused credit would roll over into the next month. I also got a new phone every two years.
Now I've changed to a MVNO and only pay $15/month for $300 of credit - calls are 40c per 30s (+35c flagfall) - and I still get (slightly limited) free evenings. My wife changed to a different MVNO and now pays 15c/minute with no flagfall on prepaid (min recharge is $10 which lasts 3 months). Of course, like most countries, incoming calls are free unless international roaming.
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Finland, and I pay about 18-20€/month
Plan costs 14.50€/month and the rest is usage.
Plan Includes:
calls/texts 0.066€min/ea
unlimited 3G, both data and speed (15/5Mbps)
MultiSIM service + USB 3G-modem
I normally don't support the 24 month contract ideas but this was too good to pass up, before I had 384Kbps data package and paid about 14€/month with useage. I must however admit that I am a bad customer, making a couple of minutes of calls, sending a few texts and using up to 1GB of data a week, unless i am away from home when i can use up to 1GB/day.
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@Zemm said:
I have heard of heaps of issues with Virgin, though, so maybe they aren't as well equipped?
They too are owned by Optus, it all depends on where you are. If you're in one of the few areas that have decent Optus coverage you're good (the town that my Grandparents live in have excellent Optus coverage because they've only had Optus for a few years there, and everyone's still on Telstra).Virgin\Optus in the town where I live are absolutely terrible. Between ~1530 and 2200 (and some nights until 0000 or later) speeds would rarely, if ever, be faster than dialup. Telstra, on the other hand, would chug along at a half way usable speed throughout most of the day. Having said that, we now have Internode ADSL2+ at home, so I'm using that for my internet now. It's nice to click a link and see the page appear so so quickly :D
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@Douglasac said:
They too are owned by Optus, it all depends on where you are. If you're in one of the few areas that have decent Optus coverage you're good (the town that my Grandparents live in have excellent Optus coverage because they've only had Optus for a few years there, and everyone's still on Telstra).
I mean virgin have more issues than plain optus or the other MVNOs. My sister had a USB stick with virgin: wall to wall issues. My netbook in her house worked at full speed. My wife's sister's boyfriend's sister also had problems with virgin. My boss has an iPhone with virgin and lots of data problems, even in the office which is less than 1km from a tower that isn't too loaded.
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Canada with Virgin pay-as-you-go. I buy a $100 card once a year, and I think it's $0.30 / minute. Unused minutes bank and carry over.
I use the phone only for emergency/running late calls. I don't answer it, or check the voice mail. The only time I ever had to top up the minutes was when we were buying our house, and I had to be in contact all the time with real estate agent, lawyer, home inspector, etc.
I had too many friends in high-school / college who get into fuckloads of cellphone debt. That, combined with how generally used-car salesman slimey cell companies are-- and, well, I just have no desire to dump hundreds to thousands of dollars per year into it.
Sometimes I wonder if it would be neat to have a smart phone. Then I realize I waste enough time on the Internet as it is.
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@El_Heffe said:
In 2008 I was in the hospital and when I got transferred to another building, my phone somehow got lost in the shuffle. I never replaced it and haven't missed it.
Anybody can call me any time they want? Fuck You.
Somebody who I don't want to talk to can call me and it gets charged against my monthly allowance of minutes? Fuck You.
If you want to talk to me call my home or office phone. If I'm not there, leave a message. That's what voice mail is for. You're not so important that I need to talk to you at your every whim.
I agree, that is why I have never owned a phone
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@serguey123 said:
@El_Heffe said:
In 2008 I was in the hospital and when I got transferred to another building, my phone somehow got lost in the shuffle. I never replaced it and haven't missed it.
Anybody can call me any time they want? Fuck You.
Somebody who I don't want to talk to can call me and it gets charged against my monthly allowance of minutes? Fuck You.
If you want to talk to me call my home or office phone. If I'm not there, leave a message. That's what voice mail is for. You're not so important that I need to talk to you at your every whim.
I agree, that is why I have never owned a phone
You could just not pick it up. And then still have it available for calling out, mobile internet, giving directions, etc.
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@blakeyrat said:
@serguey123 said:
You could just not pick it up. And then still have it available for calling out, mobile internet, giving directions, etc.@El_Heffe said:
In 2008 I was in the hospital and when I got transferred to another building, my phone somehow got lost in the shuffle. I never replaced it and haven't missed it.
Anybody can call me any time they want? Fuck You.
Somebody who I don't want to talk to can call me and it gets charged against my monthly allowance of minutes? Fuck You.
If you want to talk to me call my home or office phone. If I'm not there, leave a message. That's what voice mail is for. You're not so important that I need to talk to you at your every whim.
I agree, that is why I have never owned a phone
Or block unwanted call, a white list could work
Sorry, I don't surf that much, the internet is not that important to me, also I think this requires a expensive phone, I rather expend the money in something else
Giving direction, I suck at that also I'm not a good samaritan, also I think this requires a expensive phone, I rather expend the money in something else
I don't have many people to call, nor I like being called or messaged or being online that much, heck I don't even own an ISP account, phones for me are just another useless piece of tech people carry around, at least for me, I know some people are different
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@serguey123 said:
Or block unwanted call, a white list could work
Sorry, I don't surf that much, the internet is not that important to me, also I think this requires a expensive phone, I rather expend the money in something else
Giving direction, I suck at that also I'm not a good samaritan, also I think this requires a expensive phone, I rather expend the money in something else
I don't have many people to call, nor I like being called or messaged or being online that much, heck I don't even own an ISP account, phones for me are just another useless piece of tech people carry around, at least for me, I know some people are different
Wow.
Usually when I call people on tech sites who seem to hate all tech Luddites, I'm just joking around.
You are actually a Luddite.
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@blakeyrat said:
@serguey123 said:
Wow.Or block unwanted call, a white list could work
Sorry, I don't surf that much, the internet is not that important to me, also I think this requires a expensive phone, I rather expend the money in something else
Giving direction, I suck at that also I'm not a good samaritan, also I think this requires a expensive phone, I rather expend the money in something else
I don't have many people to call, nor I like being called or messaged or being online that much, heck I don't even own an ISP account, phones for me are just another useless piece of tech people carry around, at least for me, I know some people are different
Usually when I call people on tech sites who seem to hate all tech Luddites, I'm just joking around.
You are actually a Luddite.
How come? I don't hate technology nor I destroy looms, I just find some of it pointless some of the time. Look I'm not a people person, one can argue that most tech people are not, also is it said that people that are developed in one way are lacking in another, asymetric intelligence and whatnot.
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In some countries google map does not work well. So direction are useless. In India, you will always find lot of people to give direction. Any place on highway you stop for "chai", you can get directions.
At one point I was going on motorcycle and everyone want to give me direction.
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I am not paying anything for a cell phone provider, which is good thing since I do not have any cell phones.
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Just wondering, how many of you have landlines? I don't - and I don't think I know anyone of my generation who does have a home phone except if they need a landline for internet. Is it more common in the US?
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@intertravel said:
Just wondering, how many of you have landlines? I don't - and I don't think I know anyone of my generation who does have a home phone except if they need a landline for internet. Is it more common in the US?
I have land line, but thanks to Reliance that line is total wireless.
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@intertravel said:
Just wondering, how many of you have landlines? I don't - and I don't think I know anyone of my generation who does have a home phone except if they need a landline for internet. Is it more common in the US?
I have a landline.
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@zzo38 said:
I am not paying anything for a cell phone provider, which is good thing since I do not have any cell phones.
Like that'll stop them from charging you.
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@intertravel said:
Just wondering, how many of you have landlines? I don't - and I don't think I know anyone of my generation who does have a home phone except if they need a landline for internet. Is it more common in the US?
Yup. Putting aside the fact that I have DSL, I'll always have a landline until cell service will work 100% in a days long blackout emergency.
Which is never, since I can't remember to keep my cell charged 100% reliably. Stupid 3 day batteries.
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@intertravel said:
Just wondering, how many of you have landlines? I don't - and I don't think I know anyone of my generation who does have a home phone except if they need a landline for internet. Is it more common in the US?
I have a landline to get access to Frontier DSL. They bought out Verizon, and instantly turned the service to crap. My only other choice is Comcast... talk about a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation!
Anyway, I have one physical phone plugged into the wall. And I never answer it.
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Verizon's account retention contractor hasn't yet figured out they can call my fucking cell phone. They always call my landline, which, on the rare occasions it's answered, is answered by someone who is not me - and they always give up waiting in the 30 seconds it takes me to get to the fucking phone.
This situation simply MUST stop - my cell phone is busted and I need a new one badly, but I ain't fucking paying even their goddamned 'discounted' rates. What the hell happened to giving REAL discounts for contract renewals? Last time around, I got a free smartphone. Now the only thing I can get for free is a goddamn 1990's brick phone.
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@Weng said:
Verizon's account retention contractor hasn't yet figured out they can call my fucking cell phone
@Weng said:
my cell phone is busted and I need a new one badly
I have no further comment. Except these two.
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@Lorne Kates said:
I have no further comment. Except these two.
Har har. Just because the touchscreen is absolutely shitfucked doesn't mean I can't answer calls with the fucking 'answer call' button.
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@Weng said:
@Lorne Kates said:
I have no further comment. Except these two.
Har har. Just because the touchscreen is absolutely shitfucked doesn't mean I can't answer calls with the fucking 'answer call' button.Maybe if you didn't anally rape your phone, it'd last longer.
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@blakeyrat said:
@Weng said:
Maybe if you didn't anally rape yourself with your phone, it'd last longer.@Lorne Kates said:
I have no further comment. Except these two.
Har har. Just because the touchscreen is absolutely shitfucked doesn't mean I can't answer calls with the fucking 'answer call' button.FTFY
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@Douglasac said:
I'm in Australia. Here, the three main mobile carriers are Telstra, Optus and Vodafone (affectionately known as Hellstra, Droptus and Vodafail respectively). If you want the best coverage and the best speeds (they've got a 21mbps 3.5G mobile network in the capital cities, and it can hit pretty high speeds almost everywhere else) and don't care about price and are willing to go into the stores as opposed to ringing the call centres, then you go Telstra. If you want value and don't give a damn about data speeds or brilliant coverage, you go Optus. If you want to get screwed around and suffer a shitty, shitty network, you go Vodafail.
Here the equivqalent is Verizon, t-mobile, sprint.@Douglasac said:
I used to be on Virgin, a subsidiary of Optus, but they somehow screwed up and gave me a Nokia E63 that didn't support most of their 3G network (their network is 900/2100, somehow a store that dealt solely with Optus, Virgin and Vodafail got their hands on an 850/2100 E63, which would be good for Telstra), and I never bothered chasing it up. For $34 a month, nothing upfront, I got the phone, 70MB data and $300 worth of calls and text messages. (Fact: it is entirely possible to blow that data limit by about 100MB on a shitty 2G network. I kid you not, I did it.)
I've now got a HTC Desire on Telstra, which is lovely because the speeds are indeed awesome, as is the coverage (on a ~500km car trip, I had one complete drop out for no more than thirty seconds about 2km outside of a tiny, tiny town on the highway. Not bad. For it, I paid nothing upfront, and $49 a month. There is an issue with my plan at the moment, though: something broke it when I increased the data allowance for one month and I couldn't downgrade it, so they've arranged for the extra $10 that the data pack costs me to be credited to my account. Which would be great and all but credits can take up to three billing cycles to appear. How lovely. So, at the moment I'm paying $59\month.
I'm on verizon. I've never had an issue with a dropped call. Hell I've gotten reception and made calls while down in a cave. I share a plan with my future wife and we have a ton of minutes. But then again she has to call half way across the world quite a lot. The bill is about $150 USD each month
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@galgorah said:
I share a plan with my future wife and we have a ton of minutes. But then again she has to call half way across the world quite a lot. The bill is about $150 USD each month
I see, is she nigerian?
If so, I have some bad news for you
Or are you ordering a bride?
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@serguey123 said:
She's russian actually. Been over here, in the US, for 8 years. Her mother still lives in Moscow however. Oddly enough she does not drink much vodka. She's a lightweight who loves scotch.@galgorah said:
I share a plan with my future wife and we have a ton of minutes. But then again she has to call half way across the world quite a lot. The bill is about $150 USD each month
I see, is she nigerian?
If so, I have some bad news for you
Or are you ordering a bride?
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@galgorah said:
Here the equivqalent is Verizon, t-mobile, sprint.
I'm surprised AT&T hasn't taken a page out of Telstra's book and figured out that, short of building lots of towers with fibre backhaul, the easiest way to make sure your network is awesome is to charge an arm and a leg for it. Oh, and the many towers\fibre backhaul thing works well too.@galgorah said:I've never had an issue with a dropped call.
I had an interesting issue where a call went haywire and died, but I'm not sure who was at fault: me or the caller. So far on Telstra, that's been the only call issue. @galgorah said:I share a plan with my future wife and we have a ton of minutes.
This is what we need here. We don't have shared plans (well, sort of... Optus have a plan with a Samsung Galaxy S and a Samsung Galaxy Tab that gives you 3GB data on each and some amount of call and text credit on the phone as well for $79\month, but there's no sharing of data or call credits or suchlike).
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@galgorah said:
@serguey123 said:
She's russian actually. Been over here, in the US, for 8 years. Her mother still lives in Moscow however. Oddly enough she does not drink much vodka. She's a lightweight who loves scotch.@galgorah said:
I share a plan with my future wife and we have a ton of minutes. But then again she has to call half way across the world quite a lot. The bill is about $150 USD each month
I see, is she nigerian?
If so, I have some bad news for you
Or are you ordering a bride?
Russian? I am thinking she can speak good english, otherwise you need to have ability to speak / write/ communicate in Russian?
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@Nagesh said:
Russian? I am thinking she can speak good english, otherwise you need to have ability to speak / write/ communicate in Russian?
You have to think in Russian!
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IN Russia, Russian think you!
(never really understand this joke)
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@Nagesh said:
IN Russia, Russian think you!
(never really understand this joke)
There's a whole string of jokes about Soviet Russia which take that form - stuff like:
In America, you can always find a party: in Soviet Russia, the part can always find you.
In America, you assassinate the president: in Soviet Russia, president assassinates you.
And the most famous one, reffing 1984, is In America, you watch TV; in Soviet Russia, TV watches you.
It can be confusing now because lots of people just tack it on to every mention of Russia, even when it makes no sense.Anyway, if I can drag the thread vaguely back on topic for a minute, I was just having a quick look at mobile phones, and realised that I have no idea what the marketing-speak for what I want is. If I want a cheap phone that can browse the interwebs, maybe stream some radio, ideally be able to watch youtube and so-on as well - what do I need to look for? Is GPRS still the up-to-date protocol? Will one of these do what I want, or does it just try to look like it does?
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For some starnge reason, that page is blocked.
Term GPRS is old, now new term is 2G and 3G. Some people hvae reached 4G in USA.
Here is page from vodafone india
http://www.vodafone.in/phones/pages/blackberry_overview.aspx?pid=17&cid=hyd
They don't have affordable iPhone still.
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@intertravel said:
There's a whole string of jokes about Soviet Russia which take that form - stuff like:
In America, you can always find a party: in Soviet Russia, the part can always find you.
In America, you assassinate the president: in Soviet Russia, president assassinates you.
And the most famous one, reffing 1984, is In America, you watch TV; in Soviet Russia, TV watches you.It can be confusing now because lots of people just tack it on to every mention of Russia, even when it makes no sense.
In Soviet Russia, meme arbitrarily references you.
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@Nagesh said:
They don't have affordable iPhone still.
That's alright, neither do we. Just because everyone and their dog seems to have one doesn't mean it's reasonably priced.
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@blakeyrat said:
Maybe if you didn't anally rape your phone, it'd last longer.
Yeah, I really do need to remember to leave it out of my pocket when I do the work-on-cars thing. Using your thigh to prop up a transmission works great - but does unspeakable things to the phone in your pocket.
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@Weng said:
@Nagesh said:
They don't have affordable iPhone still.
That's alright, neither do we. Just because everyone and their dog seems to have one doesn't mean it's reasonably priced.Also vodafone is not giving me latest iPhone
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@Nagesh said:
Also vodafone is not giving me latest iPhone
Why you'd want an iPhone is beyond me. In any case, I think this is yet another example of Vodafail.
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@Douglasac said:
@Nagesh said:
Also vodafone is not giving me latest iPhone
Why you'd want an iPhone is beyond me. In any case, I think this is yet another example of Vodafail.I have Steve jobs poster in my living room. (not really. making joke)
