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  •  *snicker*

     

    Kirk doesn't mention climbing any mountains, though.


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     I bet if Milton were a crewmember of the Enterprise, he would have made this suggestion and Kirk and/or Picard would have taken it.



  • I can just imagine the United States 100 years from now if transporter technology is ever developed. Oh, the possibilities we lazy Americans would come up with! Gotta poop? Just transport it out of your colon straight into the sewer system! Hungry? Call McDonald's and have a couple Big Macs transported directly to you! Need to eat your veggies but you hate the taste? Transport it directly into your stomach!  Dirty but you're too lazy to take a shower? Just transport all the dirt and sweat off! Pregnant and in labor but you're too scared of having your baby actually come out your vagina like it's supposed to? Just transport it out! Add in the cell phone/TV/game console/computer/e-book reader/distract-me-from-doing-anything-productive-with-my-life device plugged directly into our brains and we'll never ever have a reason to even leave our easy chairs. We won't need to exercise because we could just transport out our excess body fat and cholesterol.



  • @mott555 said:

    Pregnant and in labor but you're too scared of having your baby actually come out your vagina like it's supposed to? Just transport it out!
     

    I think they actually do this in TNG.

    Not sure if that was a special emergency.



  • @RHuckster said:

     I bet if Milton were a crewmember of the Enterprise, he would have made this suggestion and Kirk and/or Picard would have taken it.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Milton was written after the first appearance of Barclay on Star Trek: TNG. The crazy guy who mumbled and was addicted to holodeck simulations. That guy rocked. Then he got his brain wired into the computer.



  • @dhromed said:

    @mott555 said:
    Pregnant and in labor but you're too scared of having your baby actually come out your vagina like it's supposed to? Just transport it out!
    I think they actually do this in TNG.

    Not sure if that was a special emergency.

    It was [i]Voyager[/i], and yes, during an emergency. [url=http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Fetal_transport]Read all about it:[/url]

    @Fetal transport said:

    During the birth of Naomi Wildman, a Human-Ktarian hybrid, in 2372, her exocranial ridges became lodged in Samantha Wildman's uterine wall, threatening to cause internal bleeding. Rather than risk repositioning the child, The Doctor performed a fetal transport into an incubator, which caused a slight hemocythemic imbalance.

    NOW YOU KNOW.

    @blakeyrat said:

    I wouldn't be surprised if Milton was written after the first appearance of Barclay on Star Trek: TNG. The crazy guy who mumbled and was addicted to holodeck simulations. That guy rocked. Then he got his brain wired into the computer.
    Brocolli was the best. I loved that episode, the Nth Degree.



  • Remember when Barclay had some kind of Vaccine that interacted with his DNA and devolved everyone?  Captain Pickard was turning into a lemur, Barclay into a spider, Dianna troy into a swamp monster . . .



  • @Medezark said:

    Remember when Barclay had some kind of Vaccine that interacted with his DNA and devolved everyone?  Captain Pickard was turning into a lemur, Barclay into a spider, Dianna troy into a swamp monster . . .

    I remember thinking that was the worst TNG episode ever.



  •  I think there was also an actual Voyager episode where Janeway and Chakotai were turned into lizards and made love to each other.



  • @PSWorx said:

     I think there was also an actual Voyager episode where Janeway and Chakotai were turned into lizards and made love to each other.

     

    I never really had much love for Voyager anyway.



  • @dhromed said:

    I never really had much love for Voyager anyway.
    Delta Quadrant, you don't know man... you weren't there



  • @PSWorx said:

     I think there was also an actual Voyager episode where Janeway and Chakotai were turned into lizards and made love to each other.

    It wasn't Chakotay, it was the other guy, the pilot.  Something about going faster than Warp 10?  And they had lizard children.  Really wierd.  Larry Niven needs to write more sci-fi scripts.

    I liked the episode where the creatures on some harch environment planet "duplicated" the crew.  And the ship.  And the follow up episode where they thought they WERE the original crew.



  • @Medezark said:

    It wasn't Chakotay, it was the other guy, the pilot.


    ???

    @Medezark said:

    I liked the episode where the creatures on some harch environment planet "duplicated" the crew.  And the ship.  And the follow up episode where they thought they WERE the original crew.


    Like when John was "twinned" for half a season of Farscape, and nobody knew which one was the original and which was the clone?

    So what I'm getting from this is: Voyager was basically just Farscape.



  • BTW has anybody else noticed that you can stream Star Trek and Star Trek: Enterprise from CBS' site, but you can't in a billion years find any place to stream Next Generation, Deep Space 9, or Voyager? What's the deal, Paramount? Surely you can't still be making that much cash from DVD sales... could you?



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Medezark said:
    It wasn't Chakotay, it was the other guy, the pilot.

    ??? @Medezark said:
    I liked the episode where the creatures on some harch environment planet "duplicated" the crew.  And the ship.  And the follow up episode where they thought they WERE the original crew.

    Like when John was "twinned" for half a season of Farscape, and nobody knew which one was the original and which was the clone?

    So what I'm getting from this is: Voyager was basically just Farscape.

    yes, yes -- exactly.  And Farscape was so fantastic it actually sent ripples of reativity BACKWARDS IN TIME so that Voyager copied Farscape BEFORE Farscape esixted.



  • Well, you know, wormholes and stuff.



  • @Medezark said:


    I liked the episode where the creatures on some harch environment planet "duplicated" the crew.  And the ship.  And the follow up episode where they thought they WERE the original crew.

     

    Yes, I remember the second episode. Mostly because the largest part of it was about how the duplicate crew was dying a slow and painful death, one by one, because their transformation didn't actually work away from their home planet or something.

    In the beginning, they were still looking for a cure and became more and more desperate. Later they realized that they were, in fact, duplicates and accepted that their death would be inevitable, but at least wanted to set off a message beacon to let other lifeforms know they had been there. But this didn't work either, and so, eventually, the last one of them dissolved into nothingness, with the episode making it very clear that no one would miss them or even know they had existed.

    I don't know who had written that episode, but I think he didn't like his employer very much.

    @Medezark said:

    yes, yes -- exactly.  And Farscape was so fantastic it actually sent ripples of reativity BACKWARDS IN TIME so that Voyager copied Farscape BEFORE Farscape esixted.

     

    I don't think any of those shows hasn't ever rehashed an old idea from another show - or, heck, from their own franchise even. I think there was a list floating around once that tried to count all the different and supposedly completely unrelated methods with which you could travel in time in the ST universe. It was a long list.

     



  • @PSWorx said:

    @Medezark said:

    yes, yes -- exactly.  And Farscape was
    so fantastic it actually sent ripples of reativity BACKWARDS IN TIME so
    that Voyager copied Farscape BEFORE Farscape esixted.

     

    I don't think any of those shows hasn't ever rehashed
    an old idea from another show - or, heck, from their own franchise even.
    I think there was a list floating around once that tried to count
    all the different and supposedly completely unrelated methods with which you could travel in time in the ST universe. It was a long list.

    And despite my love of Farscape, its entire first season before they really got into the wormhole plot was extremely, extremely derivative of Star Trek plots. "Oh look, Moya ended up in a weird spatial anomaly, let's figure out how to get out". Yeah, I got sick of those plots when they were called "Star Trek: TNG". But they grew a beard pretty quickly.



  • @Medezark said:

    Remember when Barclay had some kind of Vaccine that interacted with his DNA and devolved everyone?  Captain Pickard was turning into a lemur, Barclay into a spider, Dianna troy into a swamp monster . . .

     

    And Data's cat into an iguana.

    It probably says something about me that that's the transformation I most remember.


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    @Medezark said:

    @PSWorx said:

     I think there was also an actual Voyager episode where Janeway and Chakotai were turned into lizards and made love to each other.

    It wasn't Chakotay, it was the other guy, the pilot.  Something about going faster than Warp 10?  And they had lizard children.  Really wierd.  Larry Niven needs to write more sci-fi scripts.

    Vaguely related: http://www.b3ta.com/links/every_episode_of_Voyager




  • Dang it.  Not only does my workplace block .EXE and .MSI downloads in response to a virus distributed as a .SCR the also block that link.@dhromed said:

    @PJH said:

    Vaguely related: http://www.b3ta.com/links/every_episode_of_Voyager
     

    Bahaha!


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Medezark said:

    Dang it.  Not only does my workplace block .EXE and .MSI downloads in response to a virus distributed as a .SCR the also block that link.
    It's just a message board post with this YouTube video embedded in the first post. The subsequent replies in the thread aren't particularly enlightening.



  • @PJH said:

    @Medezark said:
    Dang it.  Not only does my workplace block .EXE and .MSI downloads in response to a virus distributed as a .SCR the also block that link.
    It's just a message board post with this YouTube video embedded in the first post. The subsequent replies in the thread aren't particularly enlightening.

     

    Thanks -- will watch at home.  If I ever get to go home.



  • @Medezark said:

    @PJH said:

    @Medezark said:
    Dang it.  Not only does my workplace block .EXE and .MSI downloads in response to a virus distributed as a .SCR the also block that link.
    It's just a message board post with this YouTube video embedded in the first post. The subsequent replies in the thread aren't particularly enlightening.

     

    Thanks -- will watch at home.  If I ever get to go home.

    It's funny but why is it in Turkish?

    The Chatokatay or whatever his name is jokes were hilarious. If extremely non-politically-correct. "I can't believe there are still native Americans in the future." "Time to pray to my Sioux gods." "Weren't you Cherokee?" "They forget each episode."

    I heard a story once that the Voyager intro was originally a graphics test, to see if viewers could tell the CGI Voyager apart from the physical model. Anybody know if that story's true?


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    @blakeyrat said:

    It's funny but why is it in Turkish?
    Any non-English language would have done - they probably had that one to hand - so they can get away with putting anything in the subtitles with the assumption that the vast majority of the audience won't understand/be distracted by the audio track.



  • @Xyro said:

    During the birth of Naomi Wildman, a Human-Ktarian hybrid, in 2372, her exocranial ridges became lodged in Samantha Wildman's uterine wall, threatening to cause internal bleeding. Rather than risk repositioning the child, The Doctor performed a fetal transport into an incubator, which caused a slight hemocythemic imbalance.
     

    I find it oddly disturbing that you actually know this.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    What's the deal, Paramount? Surely you can't still be making that much cash from DVD sales... could you?
    Do people really buy DVDs of TV shows?  With all the cable/satellite channels, plus Internet, are there any shows that aren't available for free somewhere?  And do people really want to buy a DVD so they can watch them over and over?

    Vaguely related: http://www.b3ta.com/links/every_episode_of_Voyager

    That's pretty much every episode of every Star Trek series.




  • @Medezark said:

    I liked the episode where the creatures on some harch environment planet
    "duplicated" the crew.  And the ship.  And the follow up episode where
    they thought they WERE the original crew.

    Coincidentally, not long ago I was watching the Stargate:SG-1 episode where an alien on a planet with a harsh environment duplicated the SG-1 team, and the duplicates thought they were the originals (until they found out they were in android bodies). And a followup episode (a fair bit later) where the originals and the duplicates have to work together.

    It's often said that there are no new ideas in science fiction. (I'd say instead that there are very few.) There certainly aren't any new ideas in science fiction TV shows.



  • @Scarlet Manuka said:

    @Medezark said:
    I liked the episode where the creatures on some harch environment planet
    "duplicated" the crew.  And the ship.  And the follow up episode where
    they thought they WERE the original crew.

    Coincidentally, not long ago I was watching the Stargate:SG-1 episode where an alien on a planet with a harsh environment duplicated the SG-1 team, and the duplicates thought they were the originals (until they found out they were in android bodies). And a followup episode (a fair bit later) where the originals and the duplicates have to work together.

    It's often said that there are no new ideas in science fiction. (I'd say instead that there are very few.) There certainly aren't any new ideas in science fiction TV shows.

    The dude in Farscape who was duplicating people was doing it so he could eat them. So, Farscape pretty much rocks.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    BTW has anybody else noticed that you can stream Star Trek and Star Trek: Enterprise from CBS' site, but you can't in a billion years find any place to stream Next Generation, Deep Space 9, or Voyager? What's the deal, Paramount? Surely you can't still be making that much cash from DVD sales... could you?
     

    Especially troubling since The Original Series originally ran on NBC.  If logic prevailed you'd be able to stream Voyager on the UPN website.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    So, Farscape pretty much rocks.

    Oh, it does indeed. It's just that I'm watching Stargate at the moment. :)



  • @Scarlet Manuka said:

    It's just that I'm watching Stargate at the moment. :)
    Which one?
    (They're all good, in my book.)



  • @Eternal Density said:

    @Scarlet Manuka said:
    It's just that I'm watching Stargate at the moment. :)
    Which one? (They're all good, in my book.)

    I'm working my way through my sister-in-law's DVD collection (conveniently, my brother lives just across the road). I'm just starting season 8 of SG-1, so I still have (almost) three seasons of that left to get through. After that on her shelf there's Ark of Truth, Continuum and Atlantis. I know she's planning on getting Universe as well, but I don't know when.



  • @Scarlet Manuka said:

    After that on her shelf there's Ark of Truth, Continuum
     

    The movies? Don't bother. Maybe it's expectancy bias on my part, but I felt they were not as good as the shows; not even as long-form episodes.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    . So, Farscape pretty much rocks.
    I liked Stargate, Farscape, not so much, it was boring at the begining, somewhat interesting in the middle and then my ADD kicked in and I lost interest.

    Nothing like Stargate where you know the only really interesting episodes are the ones in the beginning and the ones in the end, pretty much everything else is a filler (some ok, some crap)

    The movies, some are fillers but the last one you should watch as it is the season finale.

    One of the things that is interesting about the show is when they changed the actor for the part of the leader of the Atlantis expedition with no explanation whatsoever, not even a try.

    Coincidentally what are your thoughts on Universe? Docu drama meets sci-fi meets lame?



  • @serguey123 said:

    Coincidentally what are your thoughts on Universe? Docu drama meets sci-fi meets lame?
     

    I like SGU so far. It's darker and edgier [ALERT: tvtropes]. Some people absolutely hate it, but I don't.



  • @dhromed said:

    @serguey123 said:

    Coincidentally what are your thoughts on Universe? Docu drama meets sci-fi meets lame?
     

    I like SGU so far. It's darker and edgier [ALERT: tvtropes]. Some people absolutely hate it, but I don't.

    I hate docu dramas, so I'm biased, I don't hate the series as I'm a long time fan since the beginning but I hated the kinos episode in the first season



  • @serguey123 said:

    I hate docu dramas
     

    Maybe my idea of a docu-drama is different from yours, but, um SG·U isn't real, you know? It's science-fiction. ;)



  • @dhromed said:

    @serguey123 said:

    I hate docu dramas
     

    Maybe my idea of a docu-drama is different from yours, but, um SG·U isn't real, you know? It's science-fiction. ;)

    But, but they are real, I mean they do....

    Jokes apart, I meant the filming technique, I also hate fake documentaries


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