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@luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
he floor called "first"
I'm boggled by all these nerds that are perplexed by a real-life zero based index.
It's not a zero-based index. It's a one-based index stacked on top of something else.
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@anotherusername said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
stacked on top of something else.
... the basement?
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@luhmann The lobby, which is not considered a "floor".
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@twelvebaud said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
The
lobby,gelijkvloers which isnotconsidered a "floor".FTFP
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@luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
The
gelijkvloersrez de chaussée which isnotconsidered an "floorêtage".FTFP
Were you not paying attention when @Steve_The_Cynic explained it?
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@twelvebaud said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
Were you not paying attention when @Steve_The_Cynic explained it?
We didn't fight a emancipating language struggle to start listening to the crazy French after all
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@luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@twelvebaud said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
The
lobby,gelijkvloers which isnotconsidered a "floor".FTFP
Which floor is it? Because it's not one of the floors numbered ordinally (first, second, etc.: ordinal numbers are virtually always one-based).
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@anotherusername said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
first, second,1,2,... etc.: ordinal numbers are virtually always zero-basedgelijkvloers = groundfloor = 0
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@luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
ordinal numbers are virtually always zero-based
If someone wins a race, do you say that they were the first runner to finish, or the zeroth runner to finish?
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@anotherusername
that would depend ... witch option would mess you up the most?
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@luhmann I'm asking which option would be understood properly by other people, not me specifically.
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@anotherusername
We don't seem to have any problems counting floors starting from 0 around here so
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@luhmann That's because if they put "0" on the elevator button, everyone knows that floor 0 is the "ground floor", i.e. something else, i.e. not one of the floors above it that are given ordinal numbers.
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@anotherusername In my experience, they don't start reaching for 0 until they have to start numbering rooms. The elevator button is labelled B. (in NL. I gather Belgians would use G)
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@remi said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
It's in no way large, but it's larger than the type you're talking about (and which I have seen elsewhere). It's rated for about the same number of people who will fit in it without having to be on intimate terms with each other.
Oh, that's good. I think that the smallest I've seen was an elevator officially rated for 2 persons (yeah, I did not even know that was possible!), and where you had to be at least very friendly with the other person to fit it. I think "vertical casket" was perhaps a better suited term than "lift".
The one I'm thinking of, in an office building where you'd normally not find children, would, if loaded to the maximum number of people AND the maximum weight, have required the people to weigh around 60 kilos / 130 lbs each including clothes, shoes, accessories, and so on. And it was crowded with about half that many people.
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@luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@twelvebaud said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
Were you not paying attention when @Steve_The_Cynic explained it?
We didn't fight a emancipating language struggle to start listening to the crazy French after all
I'm English.
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@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I'm English
Nobody is perfect
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@luhmann Like I always post when this topic comes up (which is surprisingly often) the problem with that system is it doesn't account for a building which has multiple ground floors. It only works in flat-ass cities with no hills.
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@luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@anotherusername said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
first, second,1,2,... etc.: ordinal numbers are virtually always zero-basedgelijkvloers = groundfloor = 0
Small fussy point: 1, 2, ... are cardinal numbers. First, second, ... are ordinal numbers because they show the order of things (this one's first, etc.).
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@blakeyrat
Around here it is so flat that I'm below sea level most of the time
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@Luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@blakeyrat
Around here it is so flat that I'm below sea level most of the timeThat's not necessarily "flat," though it is "low."
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@blakeyrat said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@luhmann Like I always post when this topic comes up (which is surprisingly often) the problem with that system is it doesn't account for a building which has multiple ground floors. It only works in flat-ass cities with no hills.
A local medical complex has signs in its elevators that say which parking lot is accessible from which floor. 1 for the west lot, 2 for the east. No use of "ground" floor to confuse people.
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@luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@anotherusername said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
first, second,1,2,... etc.: ordinal numbers are virtually always zero-basedgelijkvloers = groundfloor = 0
Good lord. Even PHP isn't that insane when it comes to type coercion.
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@anotherusername said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@luhmann That's because if they put "0" on the elevator button, everyone knows that floor 0 is the "ground floor", i.e. something else, i.e. not one of the floors above it that are given ordinal numbers.
Speak for yourself. A lot of buildings around here have floor 0 as basement.
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@scholrlea Maybe they should install voice recognition in your elevator:
Scottish Elevator - Voice Recognition - ELEVEN ! – 03:36
— Noel Noone
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@pie_flavor said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@anotherusername said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@luhmann That's because if they put "0" on the elevator button, everyone knows that floor 0 is the "ground floor", i.e. something else, i.e. not one of the floors above it that are given ordinal numbers.
Speak for yourself. A lot of buildings around here have floor 0 as basement.
The US system is also a one-based index stacked on top of something else. But... you'll find a lot more buildings that don't have basements than you will find buildings that don't have a ground floor.
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@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
The building where I live is a ground floor (well, OK, a rez de chaussée, but that's the same thing said in fancy-dancy Froglandish) and six other floors. Being in Frogland, the floor called "first" (premier, yeah, I know) is NOT the rez de chaussée, but one floor above it.
I was in a medical office building where the buttons in the elevator where marked
L
1
2
3
4With L being the first floor ("lobby"). I wasn't paying attention and just pressed 3 since I wanted the third floor. After getting off the elevator, wandering around a bit and not being able to find what I was looking for I realized I was on the fourth floor. Who the fuck thought THAT was a good idea?
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@el_heffe Surely the floor labelled 3 in the elevator contains rooms whose number starts with 3, so it'd work out?
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@hungrier What happened to 1 thru 4? Maybe G==1 and CP2==2? Still missing 3 and 4. Inquiring minds want to know!
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@dcon said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
What happened to 1 thru 4?
Those floors might've been combined into the lobby in that part of the building. I've seen that happen sometimes in big city hotels where the hotel is only renting part of the building.
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@dkf Or the elevator doesn't open on those floors. Some elevators only serve an array of floor numbers, and that array can be non-contiguous.
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There are elevators here that still have a person operating it. They just ask what level you're going and press a button. (just a few ones, in a handful of old buildings)
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I know it's been weeks, but something just occurred to me when I saw this thread pop back up:
@scholrlea said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I am 420lb. (190Kg) of mostly sessile flab, on a 49-year-old body. Any amount of exercise that would help with that would probably kill me first, even if I were inclined to try it.
I am not. I prefer situations where I can pretend my body doesn't exist. I hate having a body at all.
Which is part of the problem I have in other areas; transhuman trumps transgender in my mind. I genuinely hate being human, so I tend to ignore and dismiss anything that is in the least bit physical about myself.... except the pleasures of eating, apparently.
Seems to me someone who genuinely felt this way would be skinny as shit, since they'd only tolerate taking the time to eat for a few seconds a day.