Edge
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If Bing is the same as Google, then there's no reason to use it. Just use Google.
Unless you're using Edge and Bing is the default search. No reason to switch to Google because the difference isn't big enough to justify the effort
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Unless you're using Edge and Bing
Well, if you're a masochist, sure, knock yourself out !!!
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@Jaloopa Maybe not, but the effort to switch from Edge is worth it.
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@loopback0 said in Edge:
the effort to switch from Edge is worth it
It's usable enough. I don't tend to do that much on browsers on my home PC, so it doesn't actually get that much use. I do have Opera for sites that don't work with Edge, because for some reason I decided if I was sticking with Edge as my main browser I wasn't going to have Chrome or Firefox installed
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@loopback0 said in Edge:
the effort to switch from Edge is worth it
It's usable enough. I don't tend to do that much on browsers on my home PC, so it doesn't actually get that much use. I do have
OChromepera for sites that don't work with Edge, because for some reason I decided if I was sticking with Edge as my main browser I wasn't going to have Chrome orFireChromefox installedFTFY :P
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It's usable enough.
I do have Opera for sites that don't work with Edge
Those conflicting words...
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@TimeBandit said in Edge:
Those conflicting words
If I had a site I visited once every couple of months that only worked in IE7, would that make IE7 the most usable browser? Or are you full of shit again?
It's fine for the majority of sites I visit. Once or twice, I've encountered pages that don't work properly, and I have a backup browser for those
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@RaceProUK said in Edge:
@loopback0 said in Edge:
the effort to switch from Edge is worth it
It's usable enough. I don't tend to do that much on browsers on my home PC, so it doesn't actually get that much use. I do have
OChromepera for sites that don't work with Edge, because for some reason I decided if I was sticking with Edge as my main browser I wasn't going to have Chrome orFireChromefox installedFTFY :P
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If I had a site I visited once every couple of months that only worked in IE7, would that make IE7 the most usable browser?
No, that would make that site a shitty one.
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@TimeBandit said in Edge:
No, that would make that site a shitty one.
Ah, got it. If a site doesn't work in Chrome it's a shitty site but if it doesn't work in Edge, Edge is a shitty browser. Thanks for clearing that up
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If a site doesn't work in Chrome it's a shitty site but if it doesn't work in Edge, Edge is a shitty browser.
If you are coming to that conclusion from what I said, you lack reading skills.
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I just found that Microsoft Edge fails both the Acid1 and Acid2 tests on my computer.
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@marczellm that doesn't matter, because any decent website works just fine with it.
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@marczellm said in Edge:
I just found that Microsoft Edge fails both the Acid1 and Acid2 tests on my computer.
Acid2 fails on Firefox 57:
The skin around eyes should be yellow, not orange.
Edit: also, Acid3.
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If we're going by "it has to be pixel perfect" then Chrome fails Acid2 as well.
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@marczellm Could not reproduce.
Acid1, Acid2 and Acid3 all look perfect in my computer, in Edge and Chrome.
Acid3 fails in Firefox, at 97/100. Yes, I disabled all extensions.
Failed 3 tests.
Test 23 failed: expected '14' but got '5' - wrong exception for createElementNS('null', ':div')
Test 25 failed: wrong exception
Test 26 passed, but took 119ms (less than 30fps)
Test 35 failed: expected '0' but got '1' - root element, with no parent node, claims to be a :first-child
Test 69 passed, but took 7 attempts (less than perfect).
Test 71 passed, but took 37ms (less than 30fps)
Total elapsed time: 2.56s
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Acid3, in particular, contains some controversial tests and no longer reflects the consensus of the Web standards it purports to test
@anonymous234 where did you get the test results? I see 97/100 on Acid3 in Chrome
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But I do see it.
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Here, in Chrome, the Acid2 fails with iframe with error page instead of the eyes and Acid3 fails at 97/100 in the same state as for @Zecc. I tried in incognito window to avoid extensions.
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My edge fails at Acid2. In addition to what's shown below, the nose only lights up when mouse is over the middle of smiley face - upper and lower parts get ignored.
Acid3 looks fine at first glance...
...but when you try to select text:
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Acid3, in particular, contains some controversial tests and no longer reflects the consensus of the Web standards it purports to test
@anonymous234 where did you get the test results? I see 97/100 on Acid3 in Chrome
Shit, you're right. Somehow I thought I tested that one on Chrome and didn't.
Acid2 definitely works on all of them though.
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My edge fails at Acid2.
Are you sure you're not slightly zoomed in, or have some extension meddling with things?
In addition to what's shown below, the nose only lights up when mouse is over the middle of smiley face - upper and lower parts get ignored.
I noticed that too. But it happens on all 3 browsers so I assumed it was normal.
Acid3 looks fine at first glance[...] ...but when you try to select text:
I don't think that counts as a failure.
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Maybe I have something not set to default. This is my Acid3 on Chrome:
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@marczellm said in Edge:
IE/Edge does too, but after maybe half a minute it offers up a button saying "Recover webpage" which magically fixes everything.
What does that button do?It reloads the page, trying to restore formdata and the like.
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Edit: (separate post because I'm not going to ruin my bookmark for that) wow, must have missed this thread, will avoid replying until the end...
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@polygeekery said in Edge:
@anonymous234 said in Edge:
In my tablet, when I click a link, it will occasionally "freeze" anywhere between 5 and 30 seconds, during which I can scroll but not click anything. Sometimes it will show that message that "the website is not responding" (don't blame the website for your own problems!). Chrome and Firefox on the other hand seem to do fine. IE11 also seems to be laggy though, so I guess it's an old problem.
It is an improvement over IE. When IE froze up, you could not scroll.
My major pet peeve with MS browsers is that they used to default to MSN homepages, and if you did not hit Esc in time, you had to wait for the page to finish loading all of its clusterfuckery before you could download Chrome.
Fucking MSN. Let's see how much shit we can cram on one webpage so that we take forever to load!!
There, now you'll only get the "Your browser has been upgraded!" message, the "Enable defaults?" dialog, and then you can download Chrome. Works even on Edge IIRC.
Posting for the lulz, even though .
@Lorne-Kates said in Edge:
R
iexplore.exe https://google.com/chrome
ENTERNo telnet to port 80 piped to a file?
I is dissapoint.
if i remembered the download location and trusted google not to mysteriously move it periodically i'd do just that.
'Tis why I keep the enterprise installer on hand. It's usually not more than a year old.
@lorne-kates said in Edge:
@RaceProUK said in Edge:
At least it's standards-compliant.
That's what Opera said about their browser 10 years ago, when it couldn't render a lot of web pages.
I was going to do a :opera: talking head joke, and then I realized Opera sucks so much we don't even have a Emoji for it.
And then I was going to do a :fa_ie: joke of them all laughing at Opera, but we don't have Emjoicons for those either?
Fuck 2016.
Apparently IE has fallen out of favor with FontAwesome...
Oh, there you go...
@Lorne-Kates said in Edge:
It's almost identical to Google
https://www.bing.com/search?q=bing+sucks&go=Submit+Query&qs=ds&form=QBLH
https://www.google.ca/search?q=bing+sucks
Even though both engines lie, yes, technically Bing had more results. How many unique results... Well, I'm not going to check...
@lorne-kates said in Edge:
@Lorne-Kates I think you mean .
Edge is .
And then there is too.
Now you can craft your story.
What the fucking shit?
typed
:fa_e
then typed
d
....Goddamn fucking stupid piece of shit forum.
Don't worry, it got worse!
Acid
Funny enough, if I make the Edge window
3pxmuch wider, Acid2 comes together...
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Mobile browsers also seem to have some trouble
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Here's a bunch of processes my Win10 launched after startup:
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@marczellm It's chromium. Working as expected.
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@marczellm It's chromium. Working as expected.
Nah, look how little memory it's using. Clearly broken.
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@loopback0 said in Edge:
@marczellm It's chromium. Working as expected.
Nah, look how little memory it's using. Clearly broken.
True. And power usage "Very low". That can't be right...
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@marczellm It's chromium. Working as expected.
thing is I didn't launch the browser, only the OS.
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@marczellm is Edge your default browser, at least?
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@TimeBandit nope
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@marczellm said in Edge:
Here's a bunch of processes my Win10 launched after startup:
TBF MS is trying to fix years of browser problems by using other software. Their "less MS is better browser" model must be working, because I've come across fewer browser compatibility issues in Edge than in IE11.
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@Shoreline said in Edge:
@marczellm said in Edge:
Here's a bunch of processes my Win10 launched after startup:
TBF MS is trying to fix years of browser problems by using other software. Their "less MS is better browser" model must be working, because I've come across fewer browser compatibility issues in Edge than in IE11.
Probably the same amount of compatibility issues as you'd find in, say, Chrome? 😘
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Edge:
@Shoreline said in Edge:
@marczellm said in Edge:
Here's a bunch of processes my Win10 launched after startup:
TBF MS is trying to fix years of browser problems by using other software. Their "less MS is better browser" model must be working, because I've come across fewer browser compatibility issues in Edge than in IE11.
Probably the same amount of compatibility issues as you'd find in, say, Chrome? 😘
If MS somehow managed to fuck up having the same rendering behaviour between a browser and exactly the same browser I'd be disappointed, but sadly not surprised.