We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with
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@Polygeekery said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
it was a ~100 day wait to see a neurologist for an urgent need.
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@RaceProUK said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@richw said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
I already pay significant money into the NHS (it's taken by force) and then if I want something better, I have to pay again.
If I understand you right, you object to paying for a guaranteed minimum level of service, and then paying more for optional extras?
No. There is no guaranteed minimum service. The only guarantee is that the state take your money (or you go to jail). They can provide whatever terrible service they want, and there is no consequence for them. If I want choice/service, then I have to pay AGAIN.
But no-one is allowed to criticise or question the NHS - it's treated like a religious institution in the UK. The 'envy of the world', yeah, right... so much so that no-one else bothers.
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@richw said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
But no-one is allowed to criticise or question the NHS
Clearly you've never read a British newspaper: they criticise the NHS all the time.
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@richw said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
If I want choice/service, then I have to
pay AGAINvote for a better Parliament.Fixed that for you.
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@richw said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
The only guarantee is that the state take your money (or you go to jail).
Or you don't earn enough for the state to take your money (except VAT and a few others).
Or you stop moaning and realise you have it better than the people who don't have the option of paying more for premium treatment
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seven tacos block granted to each of the fifty states
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literally ANY of the hundreds of socialized health-care systems used throughout the civilized world, all of which are better than the for-profit, barbaric practice of "u sick, u poor, u die".
Trade it for "u sick, u poor, u die" for "u sick, u are randomly part of the 40% of treatment reductions to stay on budget, u die."
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@xaade Could you please send me a news story about the 40% mortality rate in European countries? I would find that very interesting.
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@ben_lubar said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@xaade Could you please send me a news story about the 40% mortality rate in European countries? I would find that very interesting.
I'm too busy looking for examples of "sick poor die".
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@ben_lubar said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Could you please send me a news story about the 40% mortality rate in European countries?
You realise that 100% of everyone everywhere will die eventually, certain weirdos in California notwithstanding?
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There are many ways to avoid "sick poor die", but one thing to consider is that certain medical procedures will always be out of the reach of a % of the population, no matter how much money is put towards healthcare. So inevitably someone will "sick poor die", but there will also be "sick middle-class die" and even "sick not-rich-enough die".
All the single payer does is detach "sick poor die" so that it becomes "sick government-poor die".
This means that while some are saved by single payer, others are killed by it.
Maybe that makes it more fair, but it definitely removes control from everyone in the name of the poor didn't have control before.
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Replace Obamacare with Capitalismcare: there are a finite number of treatments each day, and they go to the highest bidder. Single-payer only.
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@pie_flavor said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Single-payer only.
The "single payer" in "single payer healthcare" is the government. Are you proposing some sort of fully-government-funded capitalism?
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Let's replace Obamacare with single-player healthcare. Gamify all the things!
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@ben_lubar said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@pie_flavor said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Single-payer only.
The "single payer" in "single payer healthcare" is the government. Are you proposing some sort of fully-government-funded capitalism?
I have misunderstood this term my whole life. Now I know.
I meant, each person uses their own money, with no insurance.
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@pie_flavor said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
I have misunderstood this term my whole life. Now I know.
You and most other people (including me). Liberals are terrible at naming things.
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@heterodox said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Let's replace Obamacare with single-player healthcare. Gamify all the things!
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@zecc said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@heterodox said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Let's replace Obamacare with single-player healthcare. Gamify all the things!
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Taco Tuesday.
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@weng
Would probably be better for your health
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@weng By imperial decree, tacos are the official food of fridays. To partake in the holy taco on a day other than Friday is to spit in the face of freedom, and is even recognized as heresy by the Emperor himself!
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@polygeekery said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@Yamikuronue said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
I seem to recall back when I was in uni that they had policies where you had to present your copay or you'd not be seen.
The doctors I see must have different policies. They all ask you to pay when you are leaving, as you book any follow-up appointments and such.
The doctors you see probably don't have to deal with as many uninsured patients who can't afford to pay for their visit.
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@pie_flavor said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@ben_lubar said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@pie_flavor said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Single-payer only.
The "single payer" in "single payer healthcare" is the government. Are you proposing some sort of fully-government-funded capitalism?
I have misunderstood this term my whole life. Now I know.
I meant, each person uses their own money, with no insurance.Yeah, but you ironically described single-payer, where the "single payer" is the government who then offers out the healthcare to everyone else.
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@magus said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@weng By imperial decree, tacos are the official food of fridays. To partake in the holy taco on a day other than Friday is to spit in the face of freedom, and is even recognized as heresy by the Emperor himself!
Have you bought an eaten your government mandated amount of vegetables?
If not, there's a penalty of $4k a year.
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@xaade said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@pie_flavor said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@ben_lubar said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@pie_flavor said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Single-payer only.
The "single payer" in "single payer healthcare" is the government. Are you proposing some sort of fully-government-funded capitalism?
I have misunderstood this term my whole life. Now I know.
I meant, each person uses their own money, with no insurance.Yeah, but you ironically described single-payer, where the "single payer" is the government who then offers out the healthcare to everyone else.
Did you know that explaining the thing that you quoted by rephrasing the quote isn't that helpful?
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@jaloopa said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@fbmac no, Jesus created the NHS
Jesus was born quite a few years after Christ, though.
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@kt_ said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Jesus was born quite a few years after Christ, though.
No, Jesus was born before Christ (somewhere between 6 to 4 BC, if I recall).
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@heterodox said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@kt_ said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Jesus was born quite a few years after Christ, though.
No, Jesus was born before Christ (somewhere between 6 to 4 BC, if I recall).
I'm pretty sure most Jesuses were born after Christ. Just like most Mohammeds and mosts Moseses.
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@ben_lubar said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
I'm pretty sure most Jesuses were born after Christ. Just like most Mohammeds and mosts Moseses.
Yes, very good.
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@ben_lubar said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@heterodox said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@kt_ said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Jesus was born quite a few years after Christ, though.
No, Jesus was born before Christ (somewhere between 6 to 4 BC, if I recall).
I'm pretty sure most Jesuses were born after Christ. Just like most Mohammeds and mosts Moseses.
No word on when Yeshua was born, though.
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@ben_lubar said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
What would you replace Obamacare with?
An enraged badger with a machete.
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@heterodox said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@kt_ said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Jesus was born quite a few years after Christ, though.
No, Jesus was born before Christ (somewhere between 6 to 4 BC, if I recall).
This way this joke works much better.
Actually, recently I watched Louis CK’s Netflix special and he got this great piece there about counting years and stuff and it really bugged me that he didn’t use the fact that Christ wasn’t born year 1.
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@heterodox said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
@kt_ said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
Jesus was born quite a few years after Christ, though.
No, Jesus was born before Christ (somewhere between 6 to 4 BC, if I recall).
This way this joke works much better.
Actually, recently I watched Louis CK’s Netflix special and he got this great piece there about counting years and stuff and it really bugged me that he didn’t use the fact that Christ wasn’t born year 1.
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@pie_flavor said in We're going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with:
No word on when Yeshua was born, though.
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... with Festival every morning and afternoon, and Lottery on the solstices and equinoxes.
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