Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh)



  • @sloosecannon said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    But if you think that's not confusing, you're less in touch than I thought.

    I think it is confusing.

    I also think it's less confusing than what Android's doing to prevent it. If, indeed, Android is doing their confusing thing to prevent it, instead of the far more likely alternative that the people who designed Android didn't think it through at all.

    @sloosecannon said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    No. No it's not. It's normal UI in Android.

    Confusing and inconsistent is normal UI in Android? I'd agree with that.

    @sloosecannon said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Low-priority system notifications are used to give relevant status and allow access to system settings in a more convenient way than having to go through the settings menu.

    Then why are they called notifications if only some of them are notifications? What am I being notified of? (The only thing I can think of is: "you plugged in your phone". Well duh.) Why isn't is called "Notifications and also weird widgets that are settings which appear here sometimes for some reason"? Not as pithy, but more accurate.

    @sloosecannon said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Which is, again, the core of the issue here. You're not used to using this, it works differently than your favorite OS and you dislike it - not for good reasons, but because it's different.

    I don't dislike it because it's different, I dislike it because it's bad.

    @sloosecannon said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    I mean, if you're OK with getting your data stolen, that's all good with me.

    I'm not, and I get the objection you bring up about security. That still doesn't explain why it's in the notification area if it's not a notification.

    @sloosecannon said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Whatever. Just go back to Windows Phone if it's really that terrible for you. Or learn to adapt to the other mobile OSes out there - whatever decision you make is up to you...

    If you want to do nothing but fellate Android, why don't you leave my thread and never come back? I'm never going to be happy with this shitty poorly-designed OS, so you're wasting your time here.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    I don't dislike it because it's different, I dislike it because it's bad.

    Nope. You dislike it because it's different.

    Specifically, you think it's bad because it's different, and you dislike that.

    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    If you want to do nothing but fellate Android, why don't you leave my thread and never come back? I'm never going to be happy with this shitty poorly-designed OS, so you're wasting your time here.

    I don't, so I think I'll stay. I don't have any of those weird sexual preferences, so...



  • @blakeyrat, have you tried the microsoft launcher? It's the official one from Microsoft and seems to include all the badges you want with a simple options toggle. I'm testing it out myself, but it seems to work fine on my Nexus 6. It replaces the Google home-screen but seems to play nice with all the basic Google apps (based on limited testing). You don't need to install Cortana either, but you can.



  • @benjamin-hall said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @blakeyrat, have you tried the microsoft launcher?

    I tried it but didn't get any badges. Maybe I did something wrong, I don't know.



  • @blakeyrat Go into launcher settings, customization, and then toggle notification badges. It will prompt you (at least on Android 7) to allow the launcher access to notifications. After toggling that, I saw badges on my SMS app (the default Messages one). I haven't gotten any emails, so I haven't tested Gmail badges yet.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @benjamin-hall said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @blakeyrat, have you tried the microsoft launcher?

    I tried it but didn't get any badges. Maybe I did something wrong, I don't know.

    I also just tried out the Microsoft Launcher and I don't have a badge count on Outlook. I have to imagine if the launcher supports badge counts it'd support it on Outlook, but 🤷♂ . (And yes, I turned on the Notification badges toggle.)



  • @heterodox let me send myself an email...test it out.

    Odd...I didn't even get a notification about the new email.

    Hmm...gonna need a more organic test than that. I keep all messages read, so I shouldn't have a badge in the status quo state.

    But I certainly had one on the SMS app. When I viewed those messages, it went away properly.



  • An entire rewrite is still a LOT of code for this simple, simple, feature. But I'll try giving it another go I suppose.

    I probably didn't toggle the setting on because non-crazy people would expect that to be the default.



  • Ok I reinstalled the Microsoft home screen thing. So far the read marker isn't working, I dunno, maybe I'll give it awhile.

    This is going to kill my battery life I bet.



  • @blakeyrat I can verify the unread badges work with Twitter and Hangouts. Still no go on the Gmails.

    Maybe I should try replacing Gmail with Outlook? Too lazy to log them all in again.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Then why are they called notifications if only some of them are notifications? What am I being notified of? (The only thing I can think of is: "you plugged in your phone". Well duh.) Why isn't is called "Notifications and also weird widgets that are settings which appear here sometimes for some reason"? Not as pithy, but more accurate.

    Your entire point here hinges on this one thing. Well, not all my apps are applications, not all my documents are textual, and not all my settings pages involve settings. In fact, to quote yourself:

    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh)

    I just want the feature. I don't care if it's an "app" or "widget" or "froozlebrang." Implementation-details do not interest me



  • @blakeyrat It just occurred to me why it doesn't work.

    • The only way to split different email addresses into different icons using the built-in Gmail app is to use that 1x1 widget to point to the email address you want's inbox, if you use the app icon you get ALL your email addresses glommed into the same UI
    • I bet the unread badges feature doesn't work with widgets

    (Yet another thing Windows Phone did right, BTW. Even if they're checked by the same app, email accounts are treated as if they were different apps and each account gets its own icon, which is the only sane and rational way to do it. "Combined inbox" is another one of those "who ever asked for this?" features. If I didn't want my email separated out, I'd just use one address for everything in the first place.)

    Now the problem is: the only solution I can think of to this dumb problem is to use a different app entirely for each email address. Yet more pointless battery drain. Just to get to a vague approximation of what my last phone did out-of-the-box... sigh.



  • @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Well, not all my apps are applications,

    Really.

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    not all my documents are textual,

    Well duh. "writings" are textual. The word "documents" is used on computers specifically because it doesn't imply only text.

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    and not all my settings pages involve settings

    I guess the "About this Phone" page doesn't?

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    In fact, to quote yourself:

    I don't get what point you're trying to get at. Assuming you even made some kind of point. You seem to have just written a short discourse to explain to us all that you don't understand the word "document".

    Again, to reiterate: my objection isn't that the setting "what USB device should I pretend to be?" exists, my objection is:

    • That it's in the notification area when it's not a notification
    • That it's worded very stupidly so you look at it and go "duh?"
    • That you can't get it out of the notification area without also turning off actually-important notifications


  • @blakeyrat Theory confirmed.

    Of course nothing works the logical, rational why.

    New question: how do I remove an email account from the Gmail app once it's set up?

    I found a link that says "remove account and delete all data" but I don't know if that means from the phone or if it means what it literally says.



  • @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    I found a link that says "remove account and delete all data" but I don't know if that means from the phone or if it means what it literally says.

    Seriously, am I a retard? How the fuck do you do this.

    I've seen this thread:

    There's like 800,000 fucking suggestions, NONE OF WHICH WORK ON MY PHONE.

    The option that says "delete account" goes to the accounts.google.com website, so I think it's LITERALLY GOING TO DELETE THE ACCOUNT. I just want to remove it from Gmail, why is this so hard?????

    Jesus fucking Christ. Android is ASS.



  • @blakeyrat I finally found it. It's in the PHONE settings, not the GMAIL APP SETTINGS BECAUSE WHY WOULD I WANT A SETTING THAT APPLIES ONLY TO GMAIL TO BE IN THE GMAIL APP STUPID ME!

    Jesus.



  • @blakeyrat And now I can't set up Outlook with my OTHER Gmail account because it opens a web browser which redirects to my FIRST Gmail account and I did "something" and now the Outlook icon just shows a blank web browser, it's totally busted.

    I HATE ANDROID.

    Does anything FUCKING WORK on this shitheap of shit?

    EDIT: so Outlook asks for my email address, then forwards me to some Chrome login page, which then pops-up an Android "add accounts" page which wants me to select my existing account which is NOT the one I want.

    I can add the new account to Android again, but then it'll start syncing its email to Gmail which is ALSO not what I want.

    Am I really trying to do something so weird? Having two email addresses that need to remain separate in two different email apps?



  • @blakeyrat AHA I have outsmarted the smart phone.

    The key is when you get the redirects, there's a tiny link at the bottom that says "Sign out of Chrome". THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT WHAT I WANTED TO DO of course, but in doing that you "unlock chrome" so you can then log in using ANY account and not just the account the phone has stored... somewhere.

    So I "signed out" of chrome, added my other email account, and now Outlook's syncing.

    Now the only problem is I need to figure out how to sign back INTO Chrome as the first account, but fuck it I'll deal with that later.



  • @blakeyrat Turns out I can't set up Google Sync anyway because I set up a passphrase in 2013 and apparently I didn't note it down in my password manager, whelp.

    I wish I knew these technical problems were coming in advance, I'd turn on my mic and record the rants. They'd probably be pretty entertaining.

    It's not that I assume shit works, I just have a lot of trouble assuming HOW badly everything works.



  • @blakeyrat Oh and BTW when you remove the notification, the unread marker also goes away, EVEN THOUGH THE EMAILS THEMSELVES ARE STILL UNREAD. NOTHING FUCKING WORKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSS!


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @blakeyrat It just occurred to me why it doesn't work.

    • The only way to split different email addresses into different icons using the built-in Gmail app is to use that 1x1 widget to point to the email address you want's inbox, if you use the app icon you get ALL your email addresses glommed into the same UI
    • I bet the unread badges feature doesn't work with widgets

    (Yet another thing Windows Phone did right, BTW. Even if they're checked by the same app, email accounts are treated as if they were different apps and each account gets its own icon, which is the only sane and rational way to do it. "Combined inbox" is another one of those "who ever asked for this?" features. If I didn't want my email separated out, I'd just use one address for everything in the first place.)

    Now the problem is: the only solution I can think of to this dumb problem is to use a different app entirely for each email address. Yet more pointless battery drain. Just to get to a vague approximation of what my last phone did out-of-the-box... sigh.

    Why not, as I've suggested a couple of times, Google Inbox? Much better than Gmail, works with unread counts when they're used, doesn't have combined inbox by default, and has a whole bunch of other features.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Am I really trying to do something so weird? Having two email addresses that need to remain separate in two different email apps?

    Yes. Accounts on Android are registered and maintained with OS APIs, and they rightly assume that you would have literally no need to have one app not handle all the accounts of its type. If you don't want the multiple account handling features, for some retarded reason (and the inability to just tap a button to change it), then it's assumed that you just download another app.



  • @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Much better than Gmail, works with unread counts when they're used,

    What does that mean?

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    doesn't have combined inbox by default, and has a whole bunch of other features.

    Yeah but would it change my browser UI to the Inbox UI? Which I do not even slightly want. With the way Google apps are conjoined together, I have zero trust that installing something in Android won't fuck with all my other computers.

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Yes. Accounts on Android are registered and maintained with OS APIs, and they rightly assume that you would have literally no need to have one app not handle all the accounts of its type.

    The same is true in Windows Phone, the difference is that the email app has a completely different UI for each account. It acts like each email account has a totally different app, but in reality it's the same app running.

    This means, among other things, when you put an icon of the email account on the home screen, the icon is just for that one account, labeled by that one account's name, etc.

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    If you don't want the multiple account handling features, for some retarded reason (and the inability to just tap a button to change it), then it's assumed that you just download another app.

    I don't mind one application handling all my email accounts. I do mind my personal and business emails mixing together. I need an air-gap there.

    (No, it's not "good enough" to have a tiny little "reply as" widget somewhere. They need to be 100% separated without remote possibility of accidentally replying to a business account email from my home account, or vice-versa.

    On another note, I literally cannot in my brain imagine who wouldn't want this to be the default behavior. If you want your two email accounts to all glom together and mixed everything up, why bother making two in the first place?)


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Much better than Gmail, works with unread counts when they're used,

    What does that mean?

    It means that it looks and acts better than Gmail with more features, and if your launcher supports unread counts, then it will work with them better than Gmail does. 🛵

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    doesn't have combined inbox by default, and has a whole bunch of other features.

    Yeah but would it change my browser UI to the Inbox UI? Which I do not even slightly want. With the way Google apps are conjoined together, I have zero trust that installing something in Android won't fuck with all my other computers.

    Now you're just making shit up. When the hell have you ever experienced this? You can use the browser inbox UI if you go to inbox.google.com instead of mail.google.com, but nothing is changing anything in your browser simply by installing an app.

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Yes. Accounts on Android are registered and maintained with OS APIs, and they rightly assume that you would have literally no need to have one app not handle all the accounts of its type.

    The same is true in Windows Phone, the difference is that the email app has a completely different UI for each account. It acts like each email account has a totally different app, but in reality it's the same app running.

    This means, among other things, when you put an icon of the email account on the home screen, the icon is just for that one account, labeled by that one account's name, etc.

    Interesting behavior. I like the consistency of Android's system, however. I also know that this is possible for an app to do - I remember when Chrome had an option to make each tab a different frame in the multitask menu (why did they remove it!?).

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    If you don't want the multiple account handling features, for some retarded reason (and the inability to just tap a button to change it), then it's assumed that you just download another app.

    I don't mind one application handling all my email accounts. I do mind my personal and business emails mixing together. I need an air-gap there.

    (No, it's not "good enough" to have a tiny little "reply as" widget somewhere. They need to be 100% separated without remote possibility of accidentally replying to a business account email from my home account, or vice-versa.

    I have never experienced mixed being the default. Mine just sticks with whatever account you were last using, whether it be individual or mixed.

    On another note, I literally cannot in my brain imagine who wouldn't want this to be the default behavior. If you want your two email accounts to all glom together and mixed everything up, why bother making two in the first place?)

    I like my @gmail.com, but I'm stuck with an @sjsu.edu. Simple. Do you not have an @initrode.io email account?



  • @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    I like the consistency of Android's system, however.

    I'd like it if I encountered it.


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    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Now you're just making shit up. When the hell have you ever experienced this? You can use the browser inbox UI if you go to inbox.google.com instead of mail.google.com, but nothing is changing anything in your browser simply by installing an app.

    Not entirely true. Once you activate Inbox on your Gmail account, if you just go to gmail.com it will redirect you to the Inbox interface rather than the standard Gmail interface. You have to go into the "app drawer" thing in the upper right of the Inbox view and select Gmail to get back to the old Gmail view.

    Edit: I was wrong, that redirects you too. You have to open the folder list on the left and select Gmail THERE.


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    @e4tmyl33t said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Now you're just making shit up. When the hell have you ever experienced this? You can use the browser inbox UI if you go to inbox.google.com instead of mail.google.com, but nothing is changing anything in your browser simply by installing an app.

    Not entirely true. Once you activate Inbox on your Gmail account, if you just go to gmail.com it will redirect you to the Inbox interface rather than the standard Gmail interface. You have to go into the "app drawer" thing in the upper right of the Inbox view and select Gmail to get back to the old Gmail view.

    E_NO_REPRO

    You can explicitly tell it to redirect all gmail.com navigation to Inbox, which I did, but it will still do, I repeat, none of this by default.



  • @pie_flavor The point is I don't trust Google to not fuck with stuff.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @pie_flavor The point is I don't trust Google to not fuck with stuff.

    I mean, since it's not the case in literally anything Google does, I don't know why you wouldn't.



  • @pie_flavor Ok.

    Google does this horrible account combination thing in some apparent attempt to get people to use Google+, but in reality probably just so they can join personal data about you in their database better. Everybody using Gmail, YouTube, Reader (before they betrayed my trust by deleting that), etc, was forced to have a Google+ account, which was also forced to have a real name on it.

    If you went through this hell process (I understand for new Google users its optional now, but there's no way to undo it if you did it), you are in this nasty situation where if you violate Google rules or terms on any of their services, you lose access to all of your Google services. Even that wouldn't be that big a deal, except:

    • All their rules and terms are enforced by buggy broken robots instead of human beings

    And even that wouldn't be the end of the world, except:

    • If the buggy broken robot detects that you did something wrong, it's impossible to get a human being at Google to actually look at the problem and fix it. (Unless you get at least 100 upvotes in Hacker News, or unless you can get a store in a national media outlet.)

    So yes, I am fucking terrified of Google, and I don't want to fucking touch ANYTHING until I know 100% what it does and what its side effects will be.

    You don't have to agree with me. Nowhere in the forum rules is it written "you must agree with all of Blakeyrat's feelings". But my worries about Google are not paranoia. Especially as a person who posts YouTube videos, which is where most of Google's robot malfunctions happen.



  • @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    I mean, since it's not the case in literally anything Google does, I don't know why you wouldn't.

    G+ was my first thought too. I'd add the Google Buzz debacle and (to a much lesser extent) the forced addition of Inbox Categories (the Social/Promotions/Updates/Forums category labels and associated UI; the UI can be disabled now but the labels remain.)

    One of my least favorite Android-specific (up until this week) "let's mess with it" changes was the Calendar app revamp that initially didn't know that weeks had 7 days or that months exist.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @pie_flavor Ok.

    Google does this horrible account combination thing in some apparent attempt to get people to use Google+, but in reality probably just so they can join personal data about you in their database better. Everybody using Gmail, YouTube, Reader (before they betrayed my trust by deleting that), etc, was forced to have a Google+ account, which was also forced to have a real name on it.

    If you went through this hell process (I understand for new Google users its optional now, but there's no way to undo it if you did it), you are in this nasty situation where if you violate Google rules or terms on any of their services, you lose access to all of your Google services. Even that wouldn't be that big a deal, except:

    • All their rules and terms are enforced by buggy broken robots instead of human beings

    And even that wouldn't be the end of the world, except:

    • If the buggy broken robot detects that you did something wrong, it's impossible to get a human being at Google to actually look at the problem and fix it. (Unless you get at least 100 upvotes in Hacker News, or unless you can get a store in a national media outlet.)

    So yes, I am fucking terrified of Google, and I don't want to fucking touch ANYTHING until I know 100% what it does and what its side effects will be.

    You don't have to agree with me. Nowhere in the forum rules is it written "you must agree with all of Blakeyrat's feelings". But my worries about Google are not paranoia. Especially as a person who posts YouTube videos, which is where most of Google's robot malfunctions happen.

    It's.
    Goddamned.
    Email.

    If you trust Gmail, you trust Inbox.
    EASY.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    I use the unread status as the "I haven't dealt with this yet" flag

    Hey, me too!



  • @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    If you trust Gmail, you trust Inbox.
    EASY.

    Once more: you don't have to agree with me. But that's how I feel.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    THAT APPLIES ONLY TO GMAIL

    But it doesn't, because you're removing the Google account linked to your phone...


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @pie_flavor said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    If you trust Gmail, you trust Inbox.
    EASY.

    Once more: you don't have to agree with me. But that's how I feel.

    I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.



  • You have to understand one (or two) things. Google wants to make money, so:

    • You tie your phone to your Google account in the phone settings, not in the app
    • Google wants to make money through the app store, so they want you to use apps.

    Windows Phone did things very differently, with the "hubs" concept, but everything about Windows Phone has been a commercial failure.



  • @grunnen said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    but everything about Windows Phone has been a commercial failure.

    Not, however, because it was an inferior product.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    I HATE ANDROID.

    Does anything FUCKING WORK on this shitheap of shit?

    No, it doesn't. Not the way you want. Go get an iPhone. Enjoy using the tremendously well-designed piece of software that is iTunes to do the logical thing people would intuitively expect to be the job of a program by that name, like updating your OS.

    Am I really trying to do something so weird? Having two email addresses that need to remain separate in two different email apps?

    :doing_it_wrong:



  • @blakeyrat I've had a Lumia myself and was quite happy with it.

    Btw. Since then I've had both an Android device and now an iPhone and they all have their annoyances. Like the iPhone without a uniform back button, without normal file storage, with its weird 'share' icon, with lots of undiscoverable gestures too, etc.



  • @parody said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    One of my least favorite Android-specific (up until this week) "let's mess with it" changes was the Calendar app revamp that initially didn't know that weeks had 7 days or that months exist.

    What's this?



  • @grunnen Oh I'm sure. And there aren't any iPhones in that price range anyway. (At least none that can run the current version of the software.)

    "unread" markers that are tied to the dumb notification system are useless to me, though. (Since, as I've posted here about 4634232 times, I don't want notifications of emails.) I'm tempted to actually fucking learn Android programming and Java to make my own, but... honestly that ain't going to happen, at least not anytime in the next 6 months.

    So I'll just uninstall all this battery-draining shit and go back to the default view with no badges.



  • @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    I do mind my personal and business emails mixing together.

    Putting business emails on a personal device is TR :wtf:


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    @jazzyjosh Eh. I've got to do it. I just keep my work Exchange email in the Outlook app (since that's mandated by the company) and my personal email in Inbox.

    Now if I could only find a way to make Outlook not store one notification message for each email received...I fucking hate when I haven't cleared my notifications after a day of work and it's got to remove 100 email notifications. They get stacked into one visible "Outlook" notification display, but it still retains a counter of each individual one and has to clear them individually. Fuckers.



  • @e4tmyl33t If my company wants me to have work emails available immediately, then they can pay for me to have a company phone. I'm not wiping my personal device when I leave to accommodate them wanting me to be able to reply 24/7


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    @jazzyjosh Hilariously enough, that's what they USED to do. Pretty much everyone in my position and higher was issued a company phone a couple years ago to do company email...except me. I somehow got overlooked in this process, and since I never WANTED to have the leash of company email on a phone I carried all the time, I never spoke up about it and snuck by for years.

    Then they changed their policy to "BYOD" and stopped providing phones (presumably because it was expensive as fuck), but still mandated that supervisors and up have email available in case of major incidents or the like. I still snuck by until my manager told me I had to do it.

    At least I get about $80 a month or so towards my cell bill back from them.


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    @blakeyrat said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @grunnen Oh I'm sure. And there aren't any iPhones in that price range anyway. (At least none that can run the current version of the software.)

    Android is 7-8 years behind so a 6yo IOS is fine.



  • @jazzyjosh said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    Putting business emails on a personal device is TR

    "Business" emails meaning emails with my real name on them instead of Blakeyrat. I don't put my work emails on it. Just my business ones. Different.



  • @hungrier said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    @parody said in Recommend to me a cellphone (running Android I guess, sigh):

    One of my least favorite Android-specific (up until this week) "let's mess with it" changes was the Calendar app revamp that initially didn't know that weeks had 7 days or that months exist.

    What's this?

    If you mean the changes: When the current look of Google's Android Calendar application was released at the end of 2014 (had to look that one up), it only had three views: Schedule/Agenda, single day, and five days.

    0_1508780100612_GCal_2014_Initial.png

    They'd removed the full week and month views from the old calendar app. They also removed the zooming you could do previously to show more or less of the day vertically. You did, however, get parallax scrolling for the pictures that separated months in the Schedule view.

    It took about six months of complaining for them to add back the full week and month views and zooming.

    If you mean "up until this week": I meant that they recently changed calendar.google.com to match the mobile versions.



  • @parody I see. I had somehow missed those changes, or forgot about them.


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