Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications)
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@PJH said in Programming Certifications:
I shall allow the peanut gallery to discuss the merits, or otherwise, of whether this works....
Discuss. Since some of you (including me) can't shut up about something you have an opinion about.
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@pjh I have no idea what this is about but I have a very strong opinion about something and therefor have to discuss things in here.
Hot chocolate can be very tasty!
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@kuro said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
Hot chocolate can be very tasty!
But frequently isn't
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@kuro said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
Hot chocolate can be very tasty!
Are they still releasing songs?!
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To me it's just a firewall to prevent drive by participants and search engine bots from seeing stories that certain employers or their customers might recognize as theirs and get their panties caught in a bunch over it. At least that's how I treat it.
Seeing some people are a little more open about their identity in the lounge, I think we should still be careful about opening it up, but there's always going to be a risk of abusing trust.
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@kuro said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@pjh I have no idea what this is about but I have a very strong opinion about something and therefor have to discuss things in here.
Hot chocolate can be very tasty!
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I too must chime in to seem ever present and important
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@kuro said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@pjh I have no idea what this is about but I have a very strong opinion about something and therefor have to discuss things in here.
Hot chocolate can be very tasty!
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I like this Twitter bot:
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@pjh said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@PJH said in Programming Certifications:
I shall allow the peanut gallery to discuss the merits, or otherwise, of whether this works....
Discuss. Since some of you (including me) can't shut up about something you have an opinion about.
I think it seems to have worked pretty well so far. If I had to suggest one minimal change, then maybe require that at least two mods/admins approve new requests, instead of needing only one to make the decision.
I don't know whether it might be good to create a list of recommended qualifications (have so many posts or so many replies or a reputation score above a certain number) to provide general guidelines, but that should not become a list of requirements, and especially not automated. Access should be on a case-by-case basis.
If we had polls on NodeBB (hah!), we could have a "new request" sub-category of the Lounge where existing members could vote to accept or reject new membership requests. It would probably have to be a blinded poll to be fair. It would also almost certainly require more from the mods/admins, unless the poll results could be automated to grant permission, so I don't expect it to actually happen.
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@djls45 said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
require more from the mods
@djls45 said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
I don't expect it to actually happen.
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@djls45 said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
If we had polls on NodeBB
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@the_quiet_one said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
Seeing some people are a little more open about their identity in the lounge, I think we should still be careful about opening it up, but there's always going to be a risk of abusing tr
Yes, we generally are. If you don't post much, so people don't know you at all, don't expect to get in.
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@tsaukpaetra Oh, come on. You know everyone's going to pick option 3...
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@unperverted-vixen said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@tsaukpaetra Oh, come on. You know everyone's going to pick option 3...
And thus the main status quo will be maintained!!! :)
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@ben_lubar said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
How was I supposed to know?
All these sites start looking the same...
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@tsaukpaetra said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@ben_lubar said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
How was I supposed to know?
All these sites start looking the same...
maybe because none of the sites look the same, and the one you used looks nothing like strawpoll?
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@pie_flavor said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
the one you used looks nothing like strawpoll?
How am I supposed to know it looks nothing like strawpoll? Strawpoll.com is a perfectly valid and working site...
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@tsaukpaetra said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@pie_flavor said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
the one you used looks nothing like strawpoll?
How am I supposed to know it looks nothing like strawpoll? Strawpoll.com is a perfectly valid and working site...
Because you've been on the internet before? Strawpoll.me is very widely used.
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@pie_flavor said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
Because you've been on the internet before? Strawpoll.me is very widely used.
This is the only place I’ve seen it used - everybody else (rightfully) bakes it into their forum software.
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@pie_flavor said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@tsaukpaetra said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@pie_flavor said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
the one you used looks nothing like strawpoll?
How am I supposed to know it looks nothing like strawpoll? Strawpoll.com is a perfectly valid and working site...
Because you've been on the internet before? Strawpoll.me is very widely used.
So widely used that anyone off the street I could ask and they'd tell me it ended in .me instead of .com? I doubt that.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
anyone off the street I could ask
Jay and Silent Bob - "What the f*** is the Internet?" – [00:14..00:24] 00:24
— Mr. Kapusta
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@tsaukpaetra said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
they'd tell me it ended in .me
Not me.
I never heard of it before, that I can recall, anyway.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
it ended in me
I hope you did get something out of it
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@luhmann said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@tsaukpaetra said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
it ended in me
I hope you did get something out of it
Well I got rid of the com...
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You could always get @ben_lubar to write a plugin that fires on post and grants/revokes access based on Discoursian conditions. It'd be a little weird to have it so that you still have access even when no longer qualified as long as you don't post, but a) generics wouldn't know that and quickly lock themselves out, and b) that saves him having to write scheduled tasks or other batch operations.
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@TwelveBaud Alternatively, the trigger could be on the action that resulted in the change in qualifications.
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@djls45 Well yes, but there are a few cases where the thing that triggers a change in qualifications aren't actions, but inactions -- Discourse used a moving 30-day window and percentages of overall posts, so likes/posts could age out, or the minimum requirement could increase.
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@TwelveBaud Then the trigger could be logging in. Especially combined with a login cookie (for client-side logins) that expires at the same time as the window, it would prevent access if the user ages out of the access requirement(s).
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All this is assuming, of course, that we want to use the same sort of requirements that Discourse does.
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@djls45 said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
All this is assuming, of course, that we want to use the same sort of requirements that Discourse does.
That depends on whether someone can come up with a set that's more likely to induce blakeyrants.
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@boomzilla said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@djls45 said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
All this is assuming, of course, that we want to use the same sort of requirements that Discourse does.
That depends on whether someone can come up with a set that's more likely to induce blakeyrants.
- Must downvote a post that has 6 upvotes if the month has an E in it
- Must post to a thread with more than 41 already extant posts, but less than 43, on a day ending in Y, at least once every 32 days.
- must view 5 posts a day for at least 54.65 seconds for 18 days in a row
- must have at least 13 posts with at least 5 dislikes in a rolling 67 day period
- must have had exactly 4 posts flagged for moderation in a rolling 71 day period
How am I doing?
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@pjh said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@boomzilla said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@djls45 said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
All this is assuming, of course, that we want to use the same sort of requirements that Discourse does.
That depends on whether someone can come up with a set that's more likely to induce blakeyrants.
- Must downvote a post that has 6 upvotes if the month has an E in it
- Must post to a thread with more than 41 already extant posts, but less than 43, on a day ending in Y, at least once every 32 days.
- must view 5 posts a day for at least 54.65 seconds for 18 days in a row
- must have at least 13 posts with at least 5 dislikes in a rolling 67 day period
- must have had exactly 4 posts flagged for moderation in a rolling 71 day period
How am I doing?
Those last two seem more likely to invoke Lorne than blakey.
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@pjh said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
How am I doing?
Are these gaming achievements or something?
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@pjh said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@boomzilla said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@djls45 said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
All this is assuming, of course, that we want to use the same sort of requirements that Discourse does.
That depends on whether someone can come up with a set that's more likely to induce blakeyrants.
- Must downvote a post that has 6 upvotes if the month has an E in it
- Must post to a thread with more than 41 already extant posts, but less than 43, on a day ending in Y, at least once every 32 days.
- must view 5 posts a day for at least 54.65 seconds for 18 days in a row
- must have at least 13 posts with at least 5 dislikes in a rolling 67 day period
- must have had exactly 4 posts flagged for moderation in a rolling 71 day period
How am I doing?
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@ben_lubar said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@pjh said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@boomzilla said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
@djls45 said in Lounge certifications (Was Re: Programming Certifications):
All this is assuming, of course, that we want to use the same sort of requirements that Discourse does.
That depends on whether someone can come up with a set that's more likely to induce blakeyrants.
- Must downvote a post that has 6 upvotes if the month has an E in it
- Must post to a thread with more than 41 already extant posts, but less than 43, on a day ending in Y, at least once every 32 days.
- must view 5 posts a day for at least 54.65 seconds for 18 days in a row
- must have at least 13 posts with at least 5 dislikes in a rolling 67 day period
- must have had exactly 4 posts flagged for moderation in a rolling 71 day period
How am I doing?
Those were the requirements for joining one.