If you believe things couldn't get worse...
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JavaScript Is Eating The World
NodeJS is quickly becoming one of the most commonly used language in building web applications and is beginning to find its way into the Enterprise.
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I'd post more, but there's a lot of fanbois in the comments, and I can't be arsed.
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@raceprouk Atwood's Law
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@raceprouk Atwood's Law
Don't you hate it when he's right?
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@raceprouk said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Don't you hate it when he's right?
Just because it's happening, doesn't make him right
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@raceprouk
Atwood's First Corollary:"Visiting web forums on your phone will be hazardous to your reproductive health if the phone is too close to your lap"
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Atwood's Second Corollary:
"Discourse on mobile was designed to keep Canadians from freezing"
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@raceprouk said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Don't you hate it when he's right?
Just because it's happening, doesn't make him right
It was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual, etc.
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@raceprouk Atwood's Law
Apparently, it was a law for the next 10 years...
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
is beginning to find its way into the Enterprise
As with many other things, technologies are not chosen by merit, but by marketing power that stands behind them.
Not long ago I worked for a huge company, which shall not be named. They have scores of web portals/services (I mean hundreds of them), backends for all of them, plus dozens of other businesses that are not strictly web based, but need sophisticated in-house made software.
C# teams (my included) produced software 10x faster than node ones (that's an understatement). Our projects had 20x less bugs/indidents than node ones (that's an understatement). We realized more features than business side asked for and we always looked for ways to make our software more pleasant for the user, or faster, or easier to maintain - node teams, on the contrary.
So, how technologies shifted during years I worked there? More and more node. Why?
Because node is lightweight, efficient, non blocking and it scales magically.
I could easily find blogs that management read every day by listening to their banter.Development time? Doesn't matter, we pay salaries anyway all the time.
Incidents? They are solved during nights/weekends by elves.
Hardware costs? It's in the cloud, it's free.
Efficiency? It scales with magic!You want serious technologies to gain ground and compete with things like node? Make flashy looking blogs filled with lies. I'm not joking.
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@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Make flashy looking blogs filled with lies
You mean, like Microsoft's "Get the facts" campaign
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Make flashy looking blogs filled with lies
You mean, like Microsoft's "Get the facts" campaign
Never seen it. Was it flashy?
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@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Never seen it. Was it flashy?
At least, it was full of lies.
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Never seen it. Was it flashy?
At least, it was full of lies.
Naah, internet is made of lies. It must be flashy.
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Never seen it. Was it flashy?
At least, it was full of lies.
That was the thing about Edge, wasn't it?
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@raceprouk said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
That was the thing about Edge, wasn't it?
No
Facts behind Microsoft's anti-Linux campaign
Microsoft wanted to keep its anti-Linux campaign factual, but somewhere along the line the real facts may have become too expensive to buy.
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@raceprouk Him being right is apparently bad for everyone.
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@raceprouk said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
That was the thing about Edge, wasn't it?
No
Facts behind Microsoft's anti-Linux campaign
Microsoft wanted to keep its anti-Linux campaign factual, but somewhere along the line the real facts may have become too expensive to buy.
Must have missed that one. Then again, 2002-2003, I'd only just learned Linux was a thing that existed, and I hadn't learnt much about it.
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My conclusion: We are not on a path to win against Linux. We must change some things and we must do it immediately.
This has indeed proven to be a lie
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@raceprouk said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Then again, 2002-2003, I'd only just learned Linux was a thing that existed, and I hadn't learnt much about it.
Learn more history, yong Padawan needs to do
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
You mean, like Microsoft's "Get the facts" campaign
Slashdot's leaking again.
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@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Never seen it. Was it flashy?
At least, it was full of lies.
Naah, internet is made of lies. It must be flashy.
Did you call for someone flashy?
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@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Development time? Doesn't matter, we pay salaries anyway all the time.
Incidents? They are solved during nights/weekends by elves.A good summary of why night/weekend work should
be more painful for the companyresult in additional pay for the relevant workers, per incident.
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@hungrier said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
My conclusion: We are not on a path to win against Linux. We must change some things and we must do it immediately.
This has indeed proven to be a lie
There are a lot more Linux users than Windows users in the mobile and server markets—
Well dang, apparently the qualifiers weren't needed.Of course, that's almost entirely due to Android. Desktops and gaming are a different story:
Also from there:
Microsoft has been earning more from Android device patent licensing than from its own Windows Phone sales.
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@perverted_vixen said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Never seen it. Was it flashy?
At least, it was full of lies.
Naah, internet is made of lies. It must be flashy.
Did you call for someone flashy?
Something. Check your toybox.
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@magus said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@raceprouk Him being right is apparently bad for everyone.
I think we already knew that.
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@dreikin said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@perverted_vixen said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Never seen it. Was it flashy?
At least, it was full of lies.
Naah, internet is made of lies. It must be flashy.
Did you call for someone flashy?
Something. Check your toybox.
I would but @accalia locked it because i was a bad vixen again.
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
NodeJS is quickly becoming one of the most commonly used language in building web applications and is beginning to find its way into the Enterprise.
WTF
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@sh_code said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
NodeJS is quickly becoming one of the most commonly used language in building web applications and is beginning to find its way into the Enterprise.
WTF
Might as well be at this point, at least from the standpoint of "what do you search for when you have a problem?". It's now pretty much assumed you use it, like it's also assumed you use jQuery for web (maybe even more so, I swear 90% of instructions for libraries I check out on GitHub start with "use npm").
So yeah, we're past googling "do X in JavaScript" and it's now safer to google for "do X in NodeJS".
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@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Naah, internet is made of lies. It must be flashy.
Better hurry up, then. That's supposed to go away in a few years.
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@boomzilla said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Naah, internet is made of lies. It must be flashy.
Better hurry up, then. That's supposed to go away in a few years.
What? Flashiness? Nah man, it's just that current "flashy" means "loads of white! more white!".
I mean, fair enough, you want your flash to be write light, otherwise it fucks up your color balance
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@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
JavaScript Is Eating The WorldSuits me fine, I'm indoctrinated.
I will say this: javascript has a lot of attention from people who want to improve it. Shame it also has a lot of attention from
HPCspeople who don't know how not to abuse it without harming other people.So the good news is it should improve. The bad news is we'll be stuck with old versions of ES forever.
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@sh_code said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@timebandit said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
NodeJS is quickly becoming one of the most commonly used language in building web applications and is beginning to find its way into the Enterprise.
WTF
hi, i found solution to ''wtf'' problem ,is easy follow bellow:
npm isntall wtfthen in index.js put
import {wtf} from 'wtf'thx.....
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@dreikin said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Development time? Doesn't matter, we pay salaries anyway all the time.
Incidents? They are solved during nights/weekends by elves.A good summary of why night/weekend work should
be more painful for the companyresult in additional pay for the relevant workers, per incident.Two words:
Salaried.
Exempt.
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@anotherusername said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@dreikin said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Development time? Doesn't matter, we pay salaries anyway all the time.
Incidents? They are solved during nights/weekends by elves.A good summary of why night/weekend work should
be more painful for the companyresult in additional pay for the relevant workers, per incident.Two words:
Salaried.
Exempt.
Five words:
Unpaid
Overtime?
FUCK
THAT
SHIT!
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@accalia said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Five words:
Unpaid
Overtime?
FUCK
THAT
SHIT!Five hundred sixty-eight thousand four hundred eighteen words:
“Well,
Prince,
so
Genoa
and
Lucca
are
now
just
family
estates
of
the
Buonapartes.
But
I
warn
you
etc.
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@blakeyrat said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@accalia said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Five words:
Unpaid
Overtime?
FUCK
THAT
SHIT!Five hundred sixty-eight thousand four hundred eighteen words:
“Well,
Prince,
so
Genoa
and
Lucca
are
now
just
family
estates
of
the
Buonapartes.
But
I
warn
you
etc.Accalia saying no to unpaid overtime matches up to Tolstoy's War and Peace....... how?
I'd say that's a very @blubar thing to do but you used words instead of screenshots of bwarf dortress......
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@accalia 2 words, 5 words, 568,418 words. I just completed the pattern.
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@accalia said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Two words:
Salaried.
Exempt.
Five words:
Unpaid
Overtime?
FUCK
THAT
SHIT!
However many words: That's the norm (at least in my industry) since DOL allows it, so good luck getting a job if you're not willing to put up with it. :P
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@heterodox said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@accalia said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Two words:
Salaried.
Exempt.
Five words:
Unpaid
Overtime?
FUCK
THAT
SHIT!
However many words: That's the norm (at least in my industry) since DOL allows it, so good luck getting a job if you're not willing to put up with it. :P
@heterodox said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@accalia said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Two words:
Salaried.
Exempt.
Five words:
Unpaid
Overtime?
FUCK
THAT
SHIT!
However many words: That's the norm (at least in my industry) since DOL allows it, so good luck getting a job if you're not willing to put up with it. :P
@heterodox said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@accalia said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Two words:
Salaried.
Exempt.
Five words:
Unpaid
Overtime?
FUCK
THAT
SHIT!
However many words: That's the norm (at least in my industry) since DOL allows it, so good luck getting a job if you're not willing to put up with it. :P
@heterodox said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@accalia said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Two words:
Salaried.
Exempt.
Five words:
Unpaid
Overtime?
FUCK
THAT
SHIT!
However many words: That's the norm (at least in my industry) since DOL allows it, so good luck getting a job if you're not willing to put up with it. :P
i have a job and i refuse to put up with it.
I don't
work fornegotiate withassholesterrorists
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@accalia tis more a question of whether you lucked into a boss that isn't an asshole.
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@anotherusername said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@accalia tis more a question of whether you lucked into a boss that isn't an asshole.
I don't think my employer's an asshole for using an FLSA exemption; if I fall into one of the exemption categories, why wouldn't they? I'm more surprised that other employers choose not to do it, though there may be a difference in wages that means @accalia's not exempt or some such. Or it's a geographic thing. I dunno.
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@heterodox bosses who aren't assholes understand that unpaid overtime is okay in sprints, but that you also need downtime to recuperate from that (having a flex arrangement of sorts is nice), and demanding >>40 hour weeks for months or years on end is not okay -- or healthy.
Salary exempt is so that they don't have to track and pay overtime if the type of work you're doing means that there's occasionally an emergency that requires you to stay over / come in after hours. It is not justification for them to burn you out and get 60+ hours per week out of you just because they can.
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@anotherusername Oh, I think I see what your original reply is saying now, then. Yes, my employer gives me plenty of leave (or at least the option, if I'd ever take it) and unlimited sick time. So I don't really mind being exempt that much.
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@anotherusername said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@heterodox bosses who aren't assholes understand that unpaid overtime is okay in sprints, but that you also need downtime to recuperate from that (having a flex arrangement of sorts is nice), and demanding >>40 hour weeks for months or years on end is not okay -- or healthy.
Salary exempt is so that they don't have to track and pay overtime if the type of work you're doing means that there's occasionally an emergency that requires you to stay over / come in after hours. It is not justification for them to burn you out and get 60+ hours per week out of you just because they can.
this.
i'll be a team player if you are but if you expect more than 40 every week or even for any length of time without a good reason and an explanation of what you're going to do to make good, well that's not on is it?
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@accalia do you go all John McClane on them instead? Do you be the fly in their ointment?
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@arantor said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@accalia do you go all John McClane on them instead? Do you be the fly in their ointment?
hmm..... nah. i'm more likely to get a new job and then sit them down and make sure they know exactly why they lost me. then do proper trnasition (as much as possible in my final two weeks) then move on.
i'll even shake their hand on the way out. just because they're being asses doesn't mean it's okay for me to reciprocate.
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@accalia so, no throwing them off the top of the building and watching them fall, Hans Gruber-style, cool.
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@blakeyrat said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@accalia 2 words, 5 words, 568,418 words. I just completed the pattern.
someone didn't get their 10 hours of sleep today...
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@anotherusername said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@dreikin said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
@mrl said in If you believe things couldn't get worse...:
Development time? Doesn't matter, we pay salaries anyway all the time.
Incidents? They are solved during nights/weekends by elves.A good summary of why night/weekend work should
be more painful for the companyresult in additional pay for the relevant workers, per incident.Two words:
Salaried.
Exempt.
One word:
- Should
More words:
- That exemption, as currently stated, is also a problem.
