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Google hit with record EU fine over Shopping service
The European Commission penalises the US tech giant for illegally favouring its own shopping service.
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Google has a shopping service? TIL.
Edit: Oh, it's referring to the prices that it occasionally shows above the search results? Meh.
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"It has denied other companies the chance to compete on their merits and to innovate, and most importantly it has denied European consumers the benefits of competition, genuine choice and innovation."
But... They don't sell any of the products themselves. They're available from wherever they're sold, all of those places being separate companies from Google. Presumably the European results show localized results from European online stores, so what's the problem?
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@hungrier Might have something to do with this:
Google Shopping displays relevant products' images and prices alongside the names of shops they are available from and review scores, if available.
The details are labelled as being "sponsored", reflecting the fact that, unlike normal search results, they only include items that sellers have paid to appear.
On smartphones, the facility typically dominates "above-the-fold" content, meaning users might not see any traditional links unless they scroll down.
Google also benefits from the fact the Shopping service adverts are more visual than its text-based ads.
I have preserved the BBC's one-sentence-per-paragraph rule.
It's makes the article flow stupid, but they keep doing it.
They keep changing the subject without actually changing the subject.
Do they even know how to use paragraphs?
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@raceprouk So the problem is that this specific type of ad functions like an ad?
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@hungrier The problem is that Euroweenies are jealous of the success of American corporations that were out there building and inventing back in the 70s while Europe was... I dunno, busy eating runny cheeses?
So far they've gone after Microsoft, VISA, Apple, etc.
These companies do the bare minimum to comply (guess how many people bought Windows N? Zero, within rounding error), the EU courts all applaud themselves and order plates of runny cheese, but nothing happens to make Europe any more self-sufficient and three years later back we are with the same bullshit but a slightly different company name.
#NationalistTrolling
#ButAlsoKindOfNotBecauseFuckThisNonsense
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@hungrier said in EU 1, Google 0:
"It has denied other companies the chance to compete on their merits and to innovate, and most importantly it has denied European consumers the benefits of competition, genuine choice and innovation."
But... They don't sell any of the products themselves. They're available from wherever they're sold, all of those places being separate companies from Google. Presumably the European results show localized results from European online stores, so what's the problem?
When I do the same search at home (NL) or at work (Proxy exit in UK) I get different results.
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And the worms crawl out of their holes...
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@hungrier There are many local websites where you can find prices. Apparently the EC considers this a market (separate from a generic web search market) and judges that Google tries to use its market power in the generic web search market to gain more market share in the price comparison market. The distortion is then, that Google Shopping doesn't become popular because it is the best service/website of its kind, but only because Google pushes it with their power in the generic web search market.
However, perhaps one can put forward that a price-comparison-website is just a specialised web search and not a market which could be separated from other web searches.
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@grunnen said in EU 1, Google 0:
However, perhaps one can put forward that a price-comparison-website is just a specialised web search and not a market which could be separated from other web searches.
That'll probably be the basis of Google's appeal, I'd say.
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On what planet is Google being anti-competitive by giving people product listings to buy a product that they came to Google (not some other price comparison website) to search for?
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Next EU ruling:
Google has been fined 11 trillion dollars by the EU for illegally favoring Google Chrome by not having downloads for other browsers available directly from their website.
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@polygeekery that could be arranged; unfortunately though I think expenditure of that many nuclear weapons would render the remainder of this one uninhabitable by higher life forms than the cockroaches.
Also, why's the @-reply-to mention all lowercase now? I don't remember it doing that previously. It matches your username's correct case when it autocompletes: @Polygeekery.
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@ben_lubar said in EU 1, Google 0:
Next EU ruling:
Google has been fined 11 trillion dollars by the EU for illegally favoring Google Chrome by not having downloads for other browsers available directly from their website.
Well, they did it to Microsoft... (ok, IE was pre-installed... whatever...)
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@anotherusername said in EU 1, Google 0:
unfortunately though I think expenditure of that many nuclear weapons would render the remainder of this one uninhabitable by higher life forms than the cockroaches
IOW, we would be left with only lawyers, bankers and politicians ?
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#GOOXIT
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@timebandit said in EU 1, Google 0:
@anotherusername said in EU 1, Google 0:
unfortunately though I think expenditure of that many nuclear weapons would render the remainder of this one uninhabitable by higher life forms than the cockroaches
IOW, we would be left with only lawyers, bankers and politicians ?
I was going to say "no, the six-legged kind", but after enduring that much radiation who knows...
edit: I just realized that it's unclear whether that last remark referred to the cockroaches, or to the lawyers, bankers, and politicians.
...good, I'm leaving it that way.
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@anotherusername said in EU 1, Google 0:
Also, why's the @-reply-to mention all lowercase now? I don't remember it doing that previously. It matches your username's correct case when it autocompletes: @Polygeekery.
Blame @julianlam
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In response to the EU fine over Shopping service, Google said it was thinking about replacing all European search results with Bing results.
But then it remembered its "Don't be evil" motto and decided not to.
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@timebandit said in EU 1, Google 0:
In response to the EU fine over Shopping service, Google said it was thinking about replacing all European search results with Bing results.
But then it remembered its "Don't be evil" motto and decided not to.
It should just HTTP redirect them to the official EU press release page that announced the ruling.
Filed under: I love the smell of servers melting in the morning
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@raceprouk said in EU 1, Google 0:
Do they even know how to use paragraphs?
By the looks of it, just as well as they know how to use the adjective forms of country names in the news ticker at the bottom of the TV screen.
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@polygeekery said in EU 1, Google 0:
@anotherusername said in EU 1, Google 0:
On what planet
The EU.
I believe you mean Euranus.
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The US dollar has hit a new low - over a billion for a single euro.
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@obeselymorbid said in EU 1, Google 0:
The US dollar has hit a new low - over a billion for a single euro.
To be fair, a single euro is only $1090 million dollars
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@ben_lubar said in EU 1, Google 0:
@obeselymorbid said in EU 1, Google 0:
To be fair, a single euro is only $1090 million dollars
I expected counterpedantry and made sure to verify 1 EUR (as opposed to 1.1) was still over a billion dollars.
Edit: your abbr tag is not where you think it is (unless you put it there on purpose to be invisible).
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@obeselymorbid said in EU 1, Google 0:
your abbr tag is not where you think it is
it only shows up on mobile and in the editor.
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@ben_lubar I'm sure they could make a case:
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@ben_lubar said in EU 1, Google 0:
@obeselymorbid said in EU 1, Google 0:
your abbr tag is not where you think it is
it only shows up on mobile and in the editor.
And for people who have userscript CSS that makes invisible
abbrtags show up.
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@thegoryone It does say something when both Flash and Acrobat shows up before Safari, IE and Edge in a list of web browsers.
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@atazhaia said in EU 1, Google 0:
It does say something when both Flash and Acrobat shows up before Safari, IE and Edge in a list of web browsers.
They're ordered by "suitable to browse the internet"
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@thegoryone said in EU 1, Google 0:
To be fair, Firefox and Opera are also there. And....flash player, Adobe's new and improved web browser?
The description -- "Andere suchten auch nach" -- says "others were also looking for", not "other web browsers".
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@ben_lubar said in EU 1, Google 0:
@obeselymorbid said in EU 1, Google 0:
your abbr tag is not where you think it is
it only shows up on mobile and in the editor.
ben
ben
you had
ONE JOB
why are the wheels falling off the forum
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@yamikuronue said in EU 1, Google 0:
why are the wheels falling off the forum
Because someone removed
wheelnutfromnpm
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@yamikuronue This forum has wheels? It's not like it's ever actually, you know, worked.
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@magus said in EU 1, Google 0:
@yamikuronue This forum has wheels? It's not like it's ever actually, you know, worked.
Gotta have SOMETHIN to
:fa-spin:
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@yamikuronue said in EU 1, Google 0:
@ben_lubar said in EU 1, Google 0:
@obeselymorbid said in EU 1, Google 0:
your abbr tag is not where you think it is
it only shows up on mobile and in the editor.
ben
ben
you had
ONE JOB
why are the wheels falling off the forum
Funny, but it is what you'd expect for the way he wrote it, and given our custom CSS to make abbreviations easily readable on mobile.
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Yeah, it's really annoying since I have the googleads domains dns-blocked, so literally 90% of google shopping is blocked and broken for me...
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@yamikuronue said in EU 1, Google 0:
@ben_lubar said in EU 1, Google 0:
@obeselymorbid said in EU 1, Google 0:
your abbr tag is not where you think it is
it only shows up on mobile and in the editor.
ben
ben
you had
ONE JOB
why are the wheels falling off the forum
Holy carp, the forum had wheels at one point?
What did we use since getting rid of the unicorns?
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@tsaukpaetra said in EU 1, Google 0:
What did we use since getting rid of the unicorns?
Wheels. That have now fallen off. Because
wheelnutwas removed from NPM.
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@raceprouk said in EU 1, Google 0:
@tsaukpaetra said in EU 1, Google 0:
What did we use since getting rid of the unicorns?
Wheels. That have now fallen off. Because
wheelnutwas removed from NPM.Perfectly cromulent.
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@raceprouk first google result in a search for "wheelnut npm" was this topic
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@wharrgarbl said in EU 1, Google 0:
@raceprouk first google result in a search for "wheelnut npm" was this topic
TREMBLE AND QUAKE IN TERROR AT THE POWER OF OUR GOOGLEJUICE!
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The Google result:
The post it should link to:
The post it actually links to:
Gord Jerb.
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@raceprouk out of curiosity, I searched "site:what.thedailywtf.com/topic/" to see what is Google's favorite topic in this forum, and it's the Polandball one
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The title should be "EU 0.76, Google 0" in reference to metric/imperial conversions.
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@arantor Which conversion is that?
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@khudzlin an approximate one.
