Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit
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Before Android 6.0, external storage was considered unreliable. For this reason, some applications could not be installed to it, since if you removed the storage then those apps would stop working, and in certain cases (widgets, alarms, background services, etc.) this could mess up the system. In fact, Android used the conservative approach and only allowed apps that specifically stated that it was OK to install them there. This was quite a problem as we all know developers are lazy pieces of shit and most (>2/3) did not bother specifying that option.
In Android 6.0, they introduced a new feature called Adoptable Storage. Adopting external storage means it "acts like internal storage" and should never ever be removed without warning. It gets formatted and encrypted to only work with your specific device, for various security reasons.
And that's it right? Seems pretty obvious that this is a perfect solution to that specific problem? Well, as you can probably guess from the title and category of this post, not really. You still can't move applications there unless they specifically state that they can be moved there.
What's the point then? As far as I can tell, using the Adoptable Storage has no advantages as all for the user other than encryption. It seems like the super intelligent geniuses at Google saw a common problem, developed a solution for it, and then simply refused to implement it .
So what this means is that millions of people will buy one of those cheap Chinese phones or tablets with 4GB of internal storage (just enough for the OS), thinking they can just pop in a MicroSD card if they want to install more shit, only to find out that you actually can't do that (without rooting) simply because Google decided not to let you, despite there not being any clear technical reason for that.
And that, Google, is called being evil.
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@anonymous234 Not to mention that apps will sometimes be moved back into internal memory when they're updated, because Fuck you, that's why.
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@asdf said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
sometimes
Like in always, every time?
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@Luhmann said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
Like in always, every time?
I thought I had noticed that some apps stay in internal memory, but maybe Android is just lying to me or my memory is bad? Who knows.
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@asdf said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
maybe Android is just lying to me or my memory is bad?
Don't worry, you can just use adoptable... Oh, right. Sorry.
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The whole internal / external storage thing is a crock of shit anyhow. Hell, my Newton (circa 1998) handles having its flash card pulled, when running, even if you're running stuff that's on or using the flash card without shitting itself.
Well done, Google. After 6 major releases and fuck knows how many "breaking everything" point releases, you've shown yourselves unable to solve a problem that was already solved 20 years ago.
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@tufty said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
my Newton (circa 1998)
You forgot the
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@tufty There are so many problems in computing that have been solved many times, yet somehow remain unsolved.
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@anonymous234 said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@tufty There are so many problems in computing that have been solved many times, yet somehow remain unsolved.
Because the problems were Not Invented Here?
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@Polygeekery If I had the slightest idea what that was supposed to mean, I could probably have been said to have forgotten it.
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@tufty said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
If I had the slightest idea what that was supposed to mean
SRSLY?
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@PJH said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
SRSLY?
YA, RLY.
You fuckin' kids with your "moving pictures". Bah. I remember when this was all fields.
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@tufty said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@PJH said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
SRSLY?
YA, RLY.
You fuckin' kids with your "moving pictures". Bah. I remember when this was all fields.
It appears you're getting the gist of it now...
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@PJH said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
It appears you're getting the gist of it now...
SPEAK UP, SONNY JIM!
Bleedin' kids. Where did I put my hearing aid?
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@tufty said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
moving pictures
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@PleegWat said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@tufty said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
moving pictures
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@Maciejasjmj said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@PleegWat said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@tufty said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
moving pictures
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@asdf said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@anonymous234 Not to mention that apps will sometimes be moved back into internal memory when they're updated, because Fuck you, that's why.
And on Cyanogenmod, their icons will also occasionally disappear from your home screen on reboot.
I've been noticing "holes" in my home screen icons for a while and I just discovered this is the cause.
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@anonymous234 said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@asdf said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@anonymous234 Not to mention that apps will sometimes be moved back into internal memory when they're updated, because Fuck you, that's why.
And on Cyanogenmod, their icons will also occasionally disappear from your home screen on reboot.
I've been noticing "holes" in my home screen icons for a while and I just discovered this is the cause.
I find this happens most often during a cache rebuild, where somehow the package name changes or something (possibly by the actual dev) so Android thinks it's a new app, and notices that the "old" app has disappeared.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
I find this happens most often during a cache rebuild, where somehow the package name changes or something (possibly by the actual dev) so Android thinks it's a new app, and notices that the "old" app has disappeared.
Yup. Much like the ever broken media library cache. Any file that's not added / notified via specific API does not exist for the cache.
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@tufty said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
Bah. I remember when this was all fields.
Did you grow your fucks in them?
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@Onyx said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@tufty said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
Bah. I remember when this was all fields.
Did you grow your fucks in them?
Whose to say he didn't fuck his growths in them?
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Non-Android WTF: Why the hell did this topic just show up in my unread list?
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@asdf said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
Non-Android WTF: Why the hell did this topic just show up in my unread list?
Because you necro'd it!
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@sloosecannon but other threads have been appearing in my unread with no new replies. This isn't the only one.
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@LB_ I linked it in another thread... maybe that triggers it?
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@masonwheeler Never has a Thomas character face looked more creepy
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@anonymous234 I think Google has no idea what to do with SD cards because none of the Google-branded phones actually have an SD card slot - they'd far rather just slap on an extra $50-100 at purchase time to let you buy a larger internal storage. I've had a Nexus 4, I have a Pixel now, and neither have an SD card slot.
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@anonymous234 said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@tufty There are so many problems in computing that have been solved many times, yet somehow remain unsolved.
Not just in computing, either. We have a number of outfits working on solving the apparently unsolved problem of building a launcher that can put 100+ tonnes into LEO.
Let's look carefully, though, at this problem. Let's see how big the payload of Up Goer Five was.
Hmm. 47 tonnes to the effing Moon. With three guys in it.(1) Nearly fifty years ago.
But what about LEO? 140 tonnes. Nearly fifty years ago. Today, though, 47 tonnes to LEO appears to be on the edge of unsolvable.
(1) Yes, I know, only two of them got to be actually on the Moon. The third got the dubious distinction of being the most isolated individual humans (there were six "third men") in the history of history.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
can put 100+ tonnes into LEO
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@Steve_The_Cynic
http://68.media.tumblr.com/3de1f7688999efe3df45dede857e4aba/tumblr_ogggpsFtOk1ro9ue6o1_raw.jpg
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
But what about LEO? 140 tonnes. Nearly fifty years ago. Today, though, 47 tonnes to LEO appears to be on the edge of unsolvable.
Not unsolvable as much as hilariously expensive. It was hilariously expensive then. It's still hilariously expensive - advances in computers haven't reduced the amount of fuel needed to get into orbit by much, or the amount of heat created by that fuel that needs to be dissipated without being dumped into fleshy meatsacks or the molten slag that was once the nozzles. The computers are way cheaper, but the programming is more expensive because it does so much more now.
Man, I miss the good old days when we lived under the constant threat of nuclear war with Russia, and any expenditure was justified as long as it showed up those commies.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@anonymous234 said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
Not just in computing, either. We have a number of outfits working on solving the apparently unsolved problem of building a launcher that can put 100+ tonnes into LEO.Let's look carefully, though, at this problem. Let's see how big the payload of Up Goer Five was.
Hmm. 47 tonnes to the effing Moon. With three guys in it.(1) Nearly fifty years ago.
But what about LEO? 140 tonnes. Nearly fifty years ago. Today, though, 47 tonnes to LEO appears to be on the edge of unsolvable.
(1) Yes, I know, only two of them got to be actually on the Moon. The third got the dubious distinction of being the most isolated individual humans (there were six "third men") in the history of history.
What's all this about 100+ tons of rockets for law enforcement organizations?
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@PotatoEngineer said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@anonymous234 I think Google has no idea what to do with SD cards because none of the Google-branded phones actually have an SD card slot - they'd far rather just slap on an extra $50-100 at purchase time to let you buy a larger internal storage. I've had a Nexus 4, I have a Pixel now, and neither have an SD card slot.
Of course not. Why should they? The SD card slot is useless; Android doesn't let you store apps on it...
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@masonwheeler said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
What's all this about 100+ tons of rockets for law enforcement organizations?
Make them ICBMs and we can take out the
illegal immigrantsterrorists from a safe distance...
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@dcon said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
@masonwheeler said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
What's all this about 100+ tons of rockets for law enforcement organizations?
Make them
ICBMsmagma and we can take out theillegal immigrantsterroristselves from a safe distance...
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@masonwheeler said in Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" is complete bullshit:
100+ tons of rockets for law enforcement organizations?
just wait till they start using them for routine traffic stops