Re: Re: Fuck Google
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Google fails to understand that there are some people who might not be using Edge on Windows 10.
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@coldandtired I wonder if it would be slander to replace the "e" icon with a spy icon in bang image?
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@coldandtired that other tab is worrying.
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@coldandtired So you need a faster browser to answer the question "is it ok to kill your family?"
Because I can answer it right now: probably not.
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Huh, something I noticed
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@blakeyrat said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@coldandtired So you need a faster browser to answer the question "is it ok to kill your family?"
Because I can answer it right now: probably not.
Maybe he's in hurry because his family tries to kill him.
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@Gąska said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Maybe he's in hurry because his family tries to kill him.
At least they have good cause for doing so now.
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@coldandtired said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Google fails to understand that there are some people who might not be using Edge on Windows 10.
Pftftftftftft. Google fails to understand, full stop. They do not understand that repeatedly suggesting that I switch to Chrome is not going to get me to switch to Chrome, nor do they get that similar repetition will not get me to change my home page to Google, nor will it get me to believe that "It's better in the app" on my phone. And there is no "Fuck off and never ask me this ever again" button.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@coldandtired said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Google fails to understand that there are some people who might not be using Edge on Windows 10.
Pftftftftftft.
GoogleMicrosoft fails to understand, full stop. They do not understand that repeatedly suggesting that I switch toChromeEdge is not going to get me to switch toChromeEdge, nor do they get that similar repetition will not get me to change my home page toGoogleBing, nor will it get me to believe that "It's better in the app" on myphoneanything. And there is no "Fuck off and never ask me this ever again" button.FTFY .
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@Gąska said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Maybe he's in hurry because his family tries to kill him.
That's what happen when you install Win10 on the family computer
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
They do not understand that repeatedly suggesting that I switch to Chrome is not going to get me to switch to Chrome, nor do they get that similar repetition will not get me to change my home page to Google, nor will it get me to believe that "It's better in the app" on my phone. And there is no "Fuck off and never ask me this ever again" button.
I swear, if I get that popup one more time I'm writing a fucking browser extension to suppress it. So it's only a matter of time.
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@Zmaster said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
They do not understand that repeatedly suggesting that I switch to Chrome is not going to get me to switch to Chrome, nor do they get that similar repetition will not get me to change my home page to Google, nor will it get me to believe that "It's better in the app" on my phone. And there is no "Fuck off and never ask me this ever again" button.
I swear, if I get that popup one more time I'm writing a fucking browser extension to suppress it. So it's only a matter of time.
Just eat the cookie, it's good for you!
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@Steve_The_Cynic At this point, I'm surprised they don't get Larry Page to personally call you and ask you why on earth you're not using Chrome.
I'm pretty sure that when you've worked in Google for more than 5 years, your brain adapts and you lose the ability to imagine anyone not using Chrome, out of their own volition.
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@coldandtired said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Google fails to understand that there are some people who might not be using Edge on Windows 10.
Not to be the brainwashed chromeaid drinker, but... what exactly would be a better way to handle this? I doubt it's possible to determine your default browser programmatically, given how locked-down that API is, so.......
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@Zmaster said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
They do not understand that repeatedly suggesting that I switch to Chrome is not going to get me to switch to Chrome, nor do they get that similar repetition will not get me to change my home page to Google, nor will it get me to believe that "It's better in the app" on my phone. And there is no "Fuck off and never ask me this ever again" button.
I swear, if I get that popup one more time I'm writing a fucking browser extension to suppress it. So it's only a matter of time.
Just eat the cookie, it's good for you!
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@sloosecannon said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Not to be the brainwashed chromeaid drinker, but... what exactly would be a better way to handle this? I doubt it's possible to determine your default browser programmatically, given how locked-down that API is, so.......
Well, there is one way if you're an asshole.
Corrupt the registry setting so that Windows sets it to the "safe default". That way, your image is correct!
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@sloosecannon it says "click Microsoft edge under browser". The image is ok, just don't bake it into the instructions.
Though I do believe it is because Google thinks that the only reason not have Chrone set as the default browser is because you've just installed the tenner and so you have to hand Edge set as the default browser.
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@kt_ said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Though I do believe it is because Google thinks that the only reason not have Chrone set as the default browser is because you've just installed the tenner and so you have to hand Edge set as the default browser.
It's not an invalid assumption, if that's the frist browser you installed after Windows finished...
Though, I do wonder if it were not possible to detect other browser's installation state and assume their defaults have tried to get set too?
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@Tsaukpaetra Well, it should be able to detect other installed browsers based off it offering to import bookmarks and stuff from any browser found on the system? As at least Firefox will give the offer upon first run for any other browser it finds and I think Chrome does too.
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@sloosecannon said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
I doubt it's possible to determine your default browser programmatically
It's in the registry, where I presume they look to determine the 'Check if Chrome is the default browser on startup' type of option.
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@Tsaukpaetra I remember seeing something similar on Ars, I believe, but this is the first time it's been noticed.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
It's not an invalid assumption, if that's the frist browser you installed after Windows finished...
It's also likely to be the browser installed for the vast majority of people who need instructions on how to change the default browser, since by definition anybody with something different has changed it
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@Zmaster said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
I swear, if I get that popup one more time I'm writing a fucking browser extension to suppress it. So it's only a matter of time.
While you're at it, could you also make it stop YouTube from turning on autoplay every other day?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@coldandtired said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Google fails to understand that there are some people who might not be using Edge on Windows 10.
Pftftftftftft.
GoogleMicrosoft fails to understand, full stop. They do not understand that repeatedly suggesting that I switch toChromeEdge is not going to get me to switch toChromeEdge, nor do they get that similar repetition will not get me to change my home page toGoogleBing, nor will it get me to believe that "It's better in the app" on myphoneanything. And there is no "Fuck off and never ask me this ever again" button.FTFY .
No, you broke it. I really, really was complaining about Google. Edge isn't the greatest browser, and mine is broken in some mysterious way that makes it occasionally think I've just this moment started using it, although perhaps the upgrade to Creators will have, in the process, fixed that. On the other hand, it isn't the worst browser either. Candidates for that include:
- IE3, which claimed on it's connections to use HTTP/0.9, and therefore can't get doodlysquat from modern Web servers. (They tell it, in essence, to go squat on its doodly.)
- Netscape Navigator 1.01, which (reasonably) displayed "Transfer interrupted" if you pressed Esc while it was slowly downloading over the wet-string Internet of the day, but (unreasonable part) saved this in the cache so it showed up the next time you loaded the page.
- Any version of Firefox after about 4.0, where it became bloated and ugly and ugly and bloated. And slow. And slower than that.
- The browser in the classic QWERTY Blackberry, which in 2005 didn't use CSS, and consequently you got to see where in the HTML the search box is on Wikipedia. It's at the very end.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
and consequently you got to see where in the HTML the search box is on Wikipedia. It's at the very end.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@coldandtired said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Google fails to understand that there are some people who might not be using Edge on Windows 10.
Pftftftftftft. Google fails to understand, full stop. They do not understand that repeatedly suggesting that I switch to Chrome is not going to get me to switch to Chrome, nor do they get that similar repetition will not get me to change my home page to Google, nor will it get me to believe that "It's better in the app" on my phone. And there is no "Fuck off and never ask me this ever again" button.
Supposedly Chrome is the hot browser right now. But since it's a Google product, I wouldn't be surprised if it phones home as much as Windows 10 does. I tried it once. Having the favorites as a bunch of menu buttons along the top was really annoying. Plus, as I said, it's Google. I got rid of it after about 10 minutes. Instead of using Google to search, I use StartPage, which basically uses Google but blocks all of the annoying ads.
I avoid using Chrome for anything. I don't have it downloaded anywhere. Firefox, for all its issues, at least allows me to block all sorts of JS crap and ads. Since I'm using Windows 7, there is no Edge, and I want to stay away from Internet Explorer.
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@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Having the favorites as a bunch of menu buttons along the top was really annoying.
You're wrong, of course. It's actually super convenient. Though you can turn it off in order to get non-doxxy screenshots.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Edge isn't the greatest browser, and mine is broken in some mysterious way that makes it occasionally think I've just this moment started using it, although perhaps the upgrade to Creators will have, in the process, fixed that. On the other hand, it isn't the worst browser either. Candidates for that include:
- IE3, which claimed on it's connections to use HTTP/0.9, and therefore can't get doodlysquat from modern Web servers. (They tell it, in essence, to go squat on its doodly.)
- Netscape Navigator 1.01, which (reasonably) displayed "Transfer interrupted" if you pressed Esc while it was slowly downloading over the wet-string Internet of the day, but (unreasonable part) saved this in the cache so it showed up the next time you loaded the page.
- Any version of Firefox after about 4.0, where it became bloated and ugly and ugly and bloated. And slow. And slower than that.
- The browser in the classic QWERTY Blackberry, which in 2005 didn't use CSS, and consequently you got to see where in the HTML the search box is on Wikipedia. It's at the very end.
Wow, you had to dig really deep to find browsers that are worse than Edge
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Any version of Firefox after about 4.0, where it became bloated and ugly and ugly and bloated.
Does bloated and slow include using 1.5+ GB of ram, becoming almost unresponsive, and not releasing the ram after closing the window? Because Firefox 3.x did that.
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@Zmaster said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
I swear, if I get that popup one more time I'm writing a fucking browser extension to suppress it. So it's only a matter of time.
Obviously these things are good - MS has started doing it when you visit via Chrome. (at least in the MSDN docs)
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@boomzilla said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Having the favorites as a bunch of menu buttons along the top was really annoying.
You're wrong, of course. It's actually super convenient. Though you can turn it off in order to get non-doxxy screenshots.
How doxxy the screenshots will be depends on what the favorites are...
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@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Having the favorites as a bunch of menu buttons along the top was really annoying.
What buttons?
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@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Firefox, for all its issues, at least allows me to block all sorts of JS crap and ads.
Because only Firefox has Adblock and noscript?
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@RaceProUK said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Having the favorites as a bunch of menu buttons along the top was really annoying.
What buttons?
I think you need to enable it via a console shortcut, try ctrl-shift-d?
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@Tsaukpaetra Ctrl Shift B, and I turned it off to make a point
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@RaceProUK said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@Tsaukpaetra Ctrl Shift B, and I turned it off to make a point
Mmmm can I 💆those points away?
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@Tsaukpaetra Slander I dunno, but from what I hear in the case of Chrome it would be pure hypocrisy.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@RaceProUK said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@Tsaukpaetra Ctrl Shift B, and I turned it off to make a point
Mmmm can I 💆those points away?
Only if you buy me a first
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Mmmm can I 💆those points away?
I believe that's the lesser known remix of that Peaches song.
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Status: Hmm...
Result: Oh.
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@TimeBandit said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Edge isn't the greatest browser, and mine is broken in some mysterious way that makes it occasionally think I've just this moment started using it, although perhaps the upgrade to Creators will have, in the process, fixed that. On the other hand, it isn't the worst browser either. Candidates for that include:
- IE3, which claimed on it's connections to use HTTP/0.9, and therefore can't get doodlysquat from modern Web servers. (They tell it, in essence, to go squat on its doodly.)
- Netscape Navigator 1.01, which (reasonably) displayed "Transfer interrupted" if you pressed Esc while it was slowly downloading over the wet-string Internet of the day, but (unreasonable part) saved this in the cache so it showed up the next time you loaded the page.
- Any version of Firefox after about 4.0, where it became bloated and ugly and ugly and bloated. And slow. And slower than that.
- The browser in the classic QWERTY Blackberry, which in 2005 didn't use CSS, and consequently you got to see where in the HTML the search box is on Wikipedia. It's at the very end.
Wow, you had to dig really deep to find browsers that are worse than Edge
Not really. All of those are things that stuck in my mind the moment I discovered them. And I was just using what I had at the specific moment. The Blackberry one was really, really annoying, because it usually meant that I spent an unreasonable amount of time twiddling the little wheel on the side to scroll down far enough to find the input box. And those are just the highlights of my journeys through the tangled maze of browser badness.
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@boomzilla said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Having the favorites as a bunch of menu buttons along the top was really annoying.
You're wrong, of course. It's actually super convenient. Though you can turn it off in order to get non-doxxy screenshots.
Statements of fact are right or wrong. Opinions by definition are not.
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@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@boomzilla said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Having the favorites as a bunch of menu buttons along the top was really annoying.
You're wrong, of course. It's actually super convenient. Though you can turn it off in order to get non-doxxy screenshots.
Statements of fact are right or wrong. Opinions by definition are not.
It's a fact that it's not really annoying.
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@boomzilla said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@boomzilla said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
@slavdude said in Re: Re: Fuck Google:
Having the favorites as a bunch of menu buttons along the top was really annoying.
You're wrong, of course. It's actually super convenient. Though you can turn it off in order to get non-doxxy screenshots.
Statements of fact are right or wrong. Opinions by definition are not.
It's a fact that it's not really annoying.
Fair enough. I prefer scrolling through my bookmarks vertically rather than horizontally, though, so it's a matter of taste. YMMV.