Toasty!
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@Gąska said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
@dcon it's a matter of survival. Who would hire full-time designers if redesigning wasn't a thing?
To be fair, without redesigning, the web would still look like this:
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@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
@Gąska said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
@dcon it's a matter of survival. Who would hire full-time designers if redesigning wasn't a thing?
To be fair, without redesigning, the web would still look like this:
In order to redesign, it must first be designed.
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@Polygeekery
I can't tell if you are being serious or not, that page (while dated) is far easier to read than the plague that is the flat UI we have currently.
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@Dragoon I hear sentiments like that often on these forums, but I have no idea what everyone is getting on about. Do you have an example of a modern weboage that is hard to read?
Even then, readability is not the only criteria. You sound like my dad when he talks about cars from the 70's being easy to work on.
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@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
modern weboage
dunno. what is a weboage? is that some new sex move?
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@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
@Gąska said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
@dcon it's a matter of survival. Who would hire full-time designers if redesigning wasn't a thing?
To be fair, without redesigning, the web would still look like this:
Hey look, it has everything I need, and loads in seconds.
@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
Do you have an example of a modern weboage that is hard to read?
Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos
Latest news coverage, email, free stock quotes, live scores and video are just the beginning. Discover more every day at Yahoo!
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@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
You sound like my dad when he talks about cars from the 70's being easy to work on.
Yeah, but the difficulty to work on the new cars is intentional.
You can design a car with similar features and not make it take all day to reach something in the hood.
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@xaade that has less to do with the way it was designed and has more to do with the design decision to cram everything they could on one single page and giving their visitors ADD.
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@xaade said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
Yeah, but the difficulty to work on the new cars is intentional.
No it isn't. We want lots of interior room and we also want smaller cars that do not feel like boats and we want them as cheaply as possible. You can only increase the cabin space and decrease the overall size of the car (and therefore the raw materials used in them) by cramming shit together more tightly.
Also, due to wanting things more cheaply, they have started modularizing the assemblies so they load the complete drivetrain from below in to a very cramped engine compartment that maximizes interior legroom.
Couple that with everything in the car being computerized for emissions and fuel mileage and everything else and they can be difficult to work on.
But that is only if "ease of access for working on the car" is your only criteria. Cars from the 70's were completely shot at 100K miles. The engines were worn out, the suspension was shot and they were rusting in two by that point. The entire car needed an overhaul. And to get to that 100K miles you had to repack the wheel bearings once every year or two, and constantly fiddle with the carburetor and timing and points and, and, and...
My daily driver is 14 years old, has almost 200K miles on it at this point and it would not bother me to drive it across the USA as it is still dead reliable.
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@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
No it isn't.
They have cars with computers designed so that independent mechanics can't work on them, and you have to take them to the dealer for certain jobs.
Yes, it is intentional. It may not be the only reason, but it definitely contributes.
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@xaade said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
They have cars with computers designed so that independent mechanics can't work on them, and you have to take them to the dealer for certain jobs.
Like what jobs? I have yet to run in to that.
John Deere machinery, yes. Cars, I have yet to see it. I am not saying that it is not true, I would just like to read about examples before I get righteously outraged.
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@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
Like what jobs? I have yet to run in to that.
I remember there being something with my car... and the mechanic said I had to take it to the dealer.
I remember for certain that independent mechanics can't reset the "needs service" notification.
This was two different things though.
If I remember exactly what it was, I'll add it.
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@xaade said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
I remember for certain that independent mechanics can't reset the "needs service" notification.
Not that I have ever run in to. OBD scanners can reset them. You can on all of our vehicles. I know this for certain because I think we got some bad gas at our neighborhood gas station because all of our pre-cat O2 sensors went out in the span of a month and I had to replace them and then reset the trouble codes. My $40 OBD scanner did it no problem.
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@xaade said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
You can design a car with similar features and not make it take all day to reach something in the hood.
Like headlights? But then how can mechanics charge $100+ to change one bulb?
(I had to (almost) remove the battery to change one. I was able to shift it enough that removal wasn't necessary)
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@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
My $40 OBD scanner did it no problem.
I probably had a crappy mechanic then.
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@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
My $40 OBD scanner did it no problem.
OMG !!! You hax0r! Call the NSA! (oh wait, nevermind, they're already listening...)
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@Polygeekery said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
To be fair, without redesigning, the web would still look like this:
The terrifying thing is that site appears to be being maintained (if really slowly) and actually has interesting stuff in the GUI history parts.
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@dkf said in Dumb things being crowdfunded.:
The terrifying thing is that site appears to be being maintained (if really slowly) and actually has interesting stuff in the GUI history parts.
The webby Metro applications (or whatever they call them now) open in overlapping windows. You may maximize them to run full screen, if you really want, and you may minimize them to the task bar.
WELCOME TO THE ADVANCEMENTS OF 1987 AND WINDOWS 2.0!!!!
He should sign up here.
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@boomzilla he and @Lorne-Kates would be fast friends.
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@Polygeekery You might think so, but...
I used to buy these frozen Banquet Chicken Finger Meals all the time, but they recently discontinued them. It is too bad, they were really great with a bit of Texas Peat hot sauce. The real kicker for me is it was exactly the right amount of food. These usually didn't leave me feeling too full or wanting more.
Whatever they put in the brownie would give me just enough of a boost to get me going in the morning. Since that was frozen, I didn't
have to worry about a baked good sitting around tempting me, drying out, quickly reaching an expiration date, or attracting bugs. I think some consumers may have been confused because the brownie was more cake-like rather than gooey. But I happen to prefer my brownies well-done. And there was the pure convenience of just plopping one of these in the microwave in the morning without having to worry about a thing more.Can't say the allegedly chicken was really super, but it was food. The new (smaller, more snack-sized) versions prominently advertise they are made with "100% chicken breast meat", which I assume means they found a legal loophole that lets them redefine the term "100% chicken breast meat" to mean puraided artificially shaped and textured mutant chicken anus. :P
Well done brownies? The man's a maniac!
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Windows 10
Yawn. They can't count to 10 without forgetting a number.At least people here actually research what they're arguing about
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@RaceProUK said in Toasty!:
At least people here actually research what they're arguing about
Flagged for LIBEL
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@Polygeekery perfectly cromulent IMO
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@Polygeekery said in Toasty!:
Do you have an example of a modern weboage that is hard to read?
From memory I can point:
This forum
Slashdot ads that take half screen and forever to go away
utest.com
My cell phone company site (VIVO)
The place I work for product (not made by me)
Linkedin
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Yeah, but the difficulty to work on the new cars is intentional.
That's not true for two reasons:
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Modern car features take more space (especially in hybrid cars, where you have basically two entirely different fuel systems and powerplants.)
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Modern aerodynamic design makes less space available.
Think about the concept of crumple zones. Safe and efficient cars have crumple zones and hybrid powerplants. Despite weighing more and being more complex, they're an order of magnitude safer than older cars and several times more efficient with practically zero trade-off. They're also several times more reliable-- pretty much any car off the lot will go 100k miles with zero maintenance. (Not counting stuff like oil changes, or buying new tires or refilling that little windshield squirty fluid stuff.)
So while it's true that modern cars are less repair-able, it's entirely false that their lack of repairability gives no benefits.
Where the incentives are different, the results are different. Look at jet airliners. They're also very complex machines, but most of the stuff in them is extremely reliable and doesn't require much inspection, except the engines. The airline industry solves this by putting this engines on little pylons, so they're easily inspectable and removeable and replaceable. (There are also aerodynamic benefits, for example, the engine intakes get "clean air" that hasn't been buffeted by hitting the plane's skin first.)
I don't think a car would work as well with its engines in pods or nacelles.
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@blakeyrat said in Toasty!:
I don't think a car would work as well with its engines in pods or nacelles.
But they would look damn cool
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@Polygeekery said in Toasty!:
@Dragoon I hear sentiments like that often on these forums, but I have no idea what everyone is getting on about. Do you have an example of a modern weboage that is hard to read?
Do you have an example of a modern page that delivers as much useful information as this page that doesn't take aeons to load and that doesn't make your laptop fans sound like an Airbus taking off?
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@RaceProUK said in Toasty!:
In Goncharov's Oblomov, for example, the title character spends the first hundred pages just getting out of bed.
Holy crap! And I thought 40k words spent mentally freaking out about thinking of genitals was bad....
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@Polygeekery said in Toasty!:
@Dragoon I hear sentiments like that often on these forums, but I have no idea what everyone is getting on about. Do you have an example of a modern weboage that is hard to read?
Do you have an example of a modern page that delivers as much useful information as this page that doesn't take aeons to load and that doesn't make your laptop fans sound like an Airbus taking off?
You are making the same mental mistake that I pointed out earlier.
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@wharrgarbl said in Toasty!:
@blakeyrat said in Toasty!:
I don't think a car would work as well with its engines in pods or nacelles.
But they would look damn cool
Until you tried to find a parking spot.
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@Polygeekery said in Toasty!:
@Polygeekery said in Toasty!:
@Dragoon I hear sentiments like that often on these forums, but I have no idea what everyone is getting on about. Do you have an example of a modern weboage that is hard to read?
Do you have an example of a modern page that delivers as much useful information as this page that doesn't take aeons to load and that doesn't make your laptop fans sound like an Airbus taking off?
You are making the same mental mistake that I pointed out earlier.
Surely we could do what we're doing without downloading a gig per website...
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@boomzilla said in Toasty!:
@wharrgarbl said in Toasty!:
@blakeyrat said in Toasty!:
I don't think a car would work as well with its engines in pods or nacelles.
But they would look damn cool
Until you tried to find a parking spot.
With the right kind of engine, NO ONE would park behind you. At least not for long...
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With the right kind of engine, NO ONE would park behind you. At least not for long...
Too true *glares at @accalia in her Rocket Voltic*
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With the right kind of engine, NO ONE would park behind you. At least not for long...
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@RaceProUK said in Toasty!:
With the right kind of engine, NO ONE would park behind you. At least not for long...
Too true *glares at @accalia in her Rocket Voltic*
/me honks the horn and engages the rocket
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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@RaceProUK said in Toasty!:
With the right kind of engine, NO ONE would park behind you. At least not for long...
Too true *glares at @accalia in her Rocket Voltic*
/me honks the horn and engages the rocket
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
*finds herself suddenly 100ft away from where she was*
*makes annoyed hedgehog noises*
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@RaceProUK What does an annoyed hedgehog sound like?
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@masonwheeler said in Toasty!:
@RaceProUK What does an annoyed hedgehog sound like?
Multiple bling sounds simultaneously.
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@masonwheeler said in Toasty!:
@RaceProUK What does an annoyed hedgehog sound like?
