Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....
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After I left Stack Overflow in 2012, people would sometimes ask me for advice. I must know what I'm doing, since I was successful, right? Well, I don't know about that… but I do know that the best way to succeed in what you're doing is not to ask some fancy "expert" like me, but to ask your customers, your fans, your users, your patrons, your .. own community!
Huh... Must have missed that one.
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We took far too long to hire a real professional sysadmin and the wheels were constantly coming off the bus in terms of building "just enough" hosting infrastructure to support our growth levels.
Well, considering the resource footprint of dicsource, hardly a surprise.
But, yeah, targeting enterprise level stuff should be a no brainer. At that level you're used to paying significant sums (from a software dev's perspective) for shit.
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"Discourse is an open source project so we didn't need it to be "done", we just needed it to be in a releasable beta state."
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@El_Heffe said in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
"Discourse is an open source project so we didn't need it to be "done", we just needed it to be in a releasable beta state."
That guy really doesn't understand the meaning of open source
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@TimeBandit Or he understands it perfectly
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"Then I looked at the state of forum software in 2012 and I had a bit of a sad, because it was incredibly awful. There wasn't anything I could recommend that I wouldn't be completely embarrassed to install on my own server."
And then he made Discourse
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@hungrier For a very broad definition of "understand"
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"Remember, if you don't release something you're slightly embarrassed about, you released too late!"
He definitely didn't release it too late.
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"At this time we only offered two tiers of service: $200/month for business and $,1000/month for enterprise."
I would have gone with the ¢10/month for enterprise
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"1. Make sure the open source version of Discourse is relatively easy to install, understand, and troubleshoot."
I'd give us a definite, solid A on the open source side
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"To determine what to do next, we listen closely to our communities, and our customers. That's what Discourse is for! I believe strongly in complaint-driven development."
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@TimeBandit said in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
embarrassed to install on my own server
So that's why Discourse is made to be installed in the cloud ...
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@aliceif said in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
So that's why Discourse is made to be
installed in the cloudhosted by Jeff Atwood ...FTFY
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@TimeBandit said in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
"To determine what to do next, we listen closely to our communities, and our customers. That's what Discourse is for! I believe strongly in complaint-driven development."
Hey, that doesn't say whether he has to listen to it.
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@JBert Or who's doing the complaining. And to whom.
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@TimeBandit quoted Jeff in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
"I believe strongly in complaint-driven development."
Well in this aspect Discourse has been a yuge success, hasn't it?
Shout out to NodeBB as well.
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See also: @end responding to complaints on Hacker News. When he keeps his cool, he can be a great guy.
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@svieira said in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
When he keeps his cool
And that there is the issue: he doesn't keep his cool
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This is the guy as a that said to me a front-end dev that his fucking zoom didn't work properly and then said "works for me" and the ignored the issue.
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@svieira said in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
See also: @end responding to complaints on Hacker News. When he keeps his cool, he can be a great guy.
Interesting quote:
codinghorror 22 hours ago:
As I like to say, if nobody hates what you're doing, it isn't very interesting.
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It's good to see that Jeff hasn't changed.
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@Groaner for sufficiently low values of "good"...
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@bb36e said in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
Interesting quote:
codinghorror 22 hours ago:
As I like to say, if nobody hates what you're doing, it isn't very interesting.
Discourse is the most interesting product of years 2014 and 2015 then I guess...
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@CHUDbert said in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
"Sell to people who have money!" Jeff Atwood explains how targeting high-value businesses instead of consumers helped grow Discourse's revenue to $120,000/mo.
Pff. Yeah, "Enterprise" software figured out long ago that big business is where the big money is. Of course "Enterprise" software is, almost without exception, shitty software...
@CHUDbert said in Jeff Atwood on Growing Discourse....:
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After I left Stack Overflow in 2012, people would sometimes ask me for advice. I must know what I'm doing, since I was successful, right? Well, I don't know about that… but I do know that the best way to succeed in what you're doing is not to ask some fancy "expert" like me, but to ask your customers, your fans, your users, your patrons, your .. own community!
Huh... Must have missed that one.
His intentions there kind of petered out when he figured out that the community didn't have money like "high-value businesses" do.
https://www.indiehackers.com/businesses/discourse
