Substring joy
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I just found this lovely servlet for getting data based off of dates passed in from users.
String end = request.getParameter("end");
Calendar cal = Calendar.getInstance();
cal.set( Integer.parseInt(end.substring(6)),Integer.parseInt(end.substring(0,2))-1, Integer.parseInt(end.substring(3,5)) );Ahh nice, let's just substring the crap out of it without checking data integrity or bounds constraints! No check to ensure "end" exists as a parameter, well, no checks at all really. I guess she thought the rest of her code was so perfect that she didn't need to...
Here's the fun part, she does that for the end date, but not for the start one:
SimpleDateFormat sdf = new SimpleDateFormat("MM/dd/yyyy");
return BoTrades.getVoidCancelTrades( request.getParameter("start"),sdf.format( cal.getTime()) );So, she formats the "end" date into a calendar object and uses SDF to convert it back to a date object. Alright, fine. But why not do the same thing for the "start" date?
To her credit, she didn't use the crappy code left from HER predecessor. I found this commented out section right above the previous code:
//NOTE: This FabCalendar doesn't know that there are certain months without Day 31st!!! Stupid
/*FabCalendar tomorrow = new FabCalendar(end, "mm/dd/yyyy");*/
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I hate it when people don't format dates as yyyy/MM/dd
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I think you should be able to use any valid date format. You should use a mechanism to convert the input into a date and time structure or class within your program. Most frameworks nowadays work like this.
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[quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]I think you should be able to use any valid date format. [/quote]
08/04/2009
August or April?
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@PJH said:
[quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]I think you should be able to use any valid date format.
08/04/2009
August or April?
[/quote]
August, clearly.
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@PJH said:
[quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]I think you should be able to use any valid date format.
08/04/2009
August or April?
[/quote] How did you manage to get more than 30 days into April?
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@morbiuswilters said:
August, clearly.
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type="hidden"></div><span id="ctl00_ctl00_bcr_bcr_ctl00_PostList_ctl06_ctl23_ctl01">Filed under: <a href="http://forums.thedailywtf.com/tags/European+date+formats+are+not+_2600_quot_3B00_valid_2600_quot_3B003A00_+they+are+an+attempt+by+Satan+to+undermine+the+mighty+United+States_2E00_/default.aspx" rel="tag">European date formats are not "valid": they are an attempt by Satan to undermine the mighty United States.</a></span><p></blockquote> </p><p>You're really enjoying that US v.s. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date#dd.2Fmm.2Fyyyy_or_dd.mm.yyyy_.28day.2C_month.2C_year.29" mce_href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date#dd.2Fmm.2Fyyyy_or_dd.mm.yyyy_.28day.2C_month.2C_year.29">Almost</a> <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/appendix/appendix-g.html" mce_href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/appendix/appendix-g.html">The Rest Of The World</a> thing aren't you? </p>
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@dtech said:
@morbiuswilters said:
August, clearly.
<div id="ctl00_ctl00_bcr_bcr_ctl00_PostList_ctl06_ctl23_ctl00_Container" style="display: none;"><div class="CommonInlineTagEditor"><div style="white-space: nowrap; padding-top: 4px;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td align="left"><a href="http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/11306/194696.aspx" class="CommonTextButton">Select Tags...</a></td><td align="right"><a href="http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/11306/194696.aspx" class="CommonTextButton">Save</a><a href="http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/11306/194696.aspx" class="CommonTextButton">Cancel</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div><span id="ctl00_ctl00_bcr_bcr_ctl00_PostList_ctl06_ctl23_ctl01">Filed under: <a href="http://forums.thedailywtf.com/tags/European+date+formats+are+not+_2600_quot_3B00_valid_2600_quot_3B003A00_+they+are+an+attempt+by+Satan+to+undermine+the+mighty+United+States_2E00_/default.aspx" rel="tag">European date formats are not "valid": they are an attempt by Satan to undermine the mighty United States.</a></span><p></blockquote> </p><p>You're really enjoying that US v.s. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date#dd.2Fmm.2Fyyyy_or_dd.mm.yyyy_.28day.2C_month.2C_year.29">Almost</a> <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/appendix/appendix-g.html">The Rest Of The World</a> thing aren't you? </p><p></blockquote></p><p>You must be new here. <br></p>
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Why does the US consider that a middle-endian date system is valid? That's just plain daft. At least the Little-endian way (eg 20/04/2009)is reasonably unambiguous, though it stil fails to increment properly.
The only sane way is the ISO format: 2009-04-08. That is unambiguous, easy to parse, nobody ever writes it in middle-endian format with slashes, and it satisfies the property that dates that come after each other
evaluate as larger integers (20090408 > 20090407) etc.
Perhaps the US started with the logical big-endian (April 8th), and then incorrectly appended the year (April 8th 2009) instead of "In the year of Our Lord 2009, April the 8th".
[There's a whole other issue brewing with AD vs CE]
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@Carnildo said:
@PJH said:
How did you manage to get more than 30 days into April?[/quote] How did you even manage to get 'more than 30' out of that post?[quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]I think you should be able to use any valid date format.
08/04/2009
August or April?
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@RichardNeill said:
At least the Little-endian way (eg 20/04/2009)is reasonably unambiguous,
But it isn't if you aren't sure it's 'little endian,' (e.g. the day of the month <= 12) that's the whole point.
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@RichardNeill said:
Why does the US consider that a middle-endian date system is valid? That's just plain daft. At least the Little-endian way (eg 20/04/2009)is reasonably unambiguous, though it stil fails to increment properly.
The only sane way is the ISO format: 2009-04-08. That is unambiguous, easy to parse, nobody ever writes it in middle-endian format with slashes, and it satisfies the property that dates that come after each other
evaluate as larger integers (20090408 > 20090407) etc.
Perhaps the US started with the logical big-endian (April 8th), and then incorrectly appended the year (April 8th 2009) instead of "In the year of Our Lord 2009, April the 8th".
It's simply historically how dates were formatted. Computers are a relatively recent phenomenon, so most date systems are not easy to parse. "Incrementing" and "endianness" is a simply not something that would have mattered 20 years ago. There is no ambiguity with the dates within a certain cultural context, just like with most things. Even the English language itself can be ambiguous depending on whether you are interpreting it as British English or American English. There's nothing "wrong" with that, it's simply the way things are. You're right that ISO format is most sensible for computers, but to expect the whole world to change how dates are formatted just to make your job as a software developer easier is pure arrogance and stupidity.
The European date format is a bit better suited for computers than the American format, but that's just coincidence -- it's not like anyone planned either date format around what would be convenient for software development in the year 2009. The American format most likely comes from language differences (as you touched on); saying "April 8th, 2009" is far more concise than "The 8th of April, 2009" or "Year 2009, April, The 8th Day". Romance languages tend to form sentence structure slightly differently, meaning that the DMY format has a stronger historical basis in European languages. British English tends to be more "flowery" and less concise than American English, so structures like "The 8th of April" fit better than they would in American English, where they would just seem cumbersome and overly formal.
@RichardNeill said:
[There's a whole other issue brewing with AD vs CE]
How so? They mean precisely the same thing and CE was just invented by secularists who were bothered by a religious connection to date formats. I'd say it's a pretty silly complaint and I hope BCE/CE just dies off, but it hardly introduces much complexity to handling dates.
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@PJH said:
@Carnildo said:
How did you even manage to get 'more than 30' out of that post?[/quote]@PJH said:
How did you manage to get more than 30 days into April?[quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]I think you should be able to use any valid date format.
08/04/2009
August or April?
2009 > 30, isn't it?
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@PJH said:
[quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]I think you should be able to use any valid date format.
08/04/2009
August or April?
[/quote]Depends on the culture being used by the UI. Come on, not being able to at least find out what culture a program is using should be some humongous WTF.
