Clock sync, Windows 10 edition
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Since my last computer reinstall Windows and Linux can no longer agree on if the system clock should be local time or UTC, something they could do before. So when I boot into Linux it will set the clock to UTC. And when I boot into Windows it does nothing and the clock displays the wrong time. Fixing it in XP for comparision is 4 clicks. Right-click on clock, choose adjust time, go to internet time, click update now. Done. And because syncing the clock at boot would the the logical thing, Windows 10 syncs the clock when it feels like it instead. So...
Well, they got the link for the date and time settings...
Which brings up the new settings panel. Nothing massively obvious there, so let's go for more settings.
Ah, the old control panel. Oh well, let's go for set time and date.
Finally in the classic one! Well, just to choose internet time and it should be there...
Set to automatically sync. But then again, sync when Windows feels like it instead of at the most logical point. And changing the settings here requires UAC unlike changing the automatic sync setting in the new settings panel. Because consistency!
And finally I get an obvious button to update now! Let's press it...
And there's an error message about the sync failing because of timeout. Followed by a message showing that the clock was synced, and the clock now displays the correct time. Because obviously the best way to check for a timeout when syncing the clock is to compare the clock before sync to the clock after sync!
(And inb4 anyone says it, I know I can force a sync in 4 clicks by just toggling the setting in the new panel, but doing that would be a
to whining about Windows. Also, it would have prevented me from seeing more Windows WTFs!)(Also, check for the bonus WTF in the first screenshot.)
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@Atazhaia said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
(Also, check for the bonus WTF in the first screenshot.)
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Is it either (or both) of these?
Oh! I know! It's that your weeks are Monday-Sunday instead of Sunday-Saturday like normal people!
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@Atazhaia said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
(Also, check for the bonus WTF in the first screenshot.)
GeForce Experience?
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@Atazhaia said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
(Also, check for the bonus WTF in the first screenshot.)
As opposed to the bonus language setting WTF in all the screenshots?
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Hm, now you mention it, there are plenty WTFs there...
Second one is Samsung Magician, which I don't know if it actually does anything useful whatsoever. Supposed to be able to speed up access to one SSD by using RAM as a cache, but I dunno. May just be snake oil or horribly broken!
Origin is a definite WTF. And also stalls the Windows shutdown for... raisins.
Then we have Radeon settings. In additions to the GeForce Experience. Because why not?
Also, Corsair is whining about not being able to detect my keyboard and/or mouse, because the back USB2 ports are broken on my motherboard.
But I was meaning the fact that I have this setup requiring both GeForce and Radeon drivers:
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@Erufael said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@Atazhaia Yeah this is an annoying one. I just did the Registry hack here to fix it.
That works well, and keeping the hardware clock in UTC is clearly the Right Thing. But if you'd rather Linux kept the hardware clock in local time instead of UTC, you can do that about as easily: just change the last line of /etc/adjtime from
UTCtoLOCAL.
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@flabdablet said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@Erufael said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@Atazhaia Yeah this is an annoying one. I just did the Registry hack here to fix it.
That works well, and keeping the hardware clock in UTC is clearly the Right Thing. But if you'd rather Linux kept the hardware clock in local time instead of UTC, you can do that about as easily: just change the last line of /etc/adjtime from
UTCtoLOCAL.Hm. Last time I did the dual boot install Linux must have set that automatically upon detecting the Windows install, as then I did not have the clock issues. Anyway, much thanks to @Erufael for informing me that Windows can indeed be set to use UTC and in that way become slightly more competent!
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@Atazhaia have you tried overclocking your SSD?
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@djls45 said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Oh! I know! It's that your weeks are Monday-Sunday instead of Sunday-Saturday like people who can't understand the Metric System!
FTFY.
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@djls45 said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Oh! I know! It's that your weeks are Monday-Sunday instead of Sunday-Saturday like normal people!
Do you also call the weekend "the weekend-and-also-the-beginning-I-guess"?
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@Maciejasjmj said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@djls45 said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Oh! I know! It's that your weeks are Monday-Sunday instead of Sunday-Saturday like normal people!
Do you also call the weekend "the weekend-and-also-the-beginning-I-guess"?
Referring to the first and last days as the ends of a week makes more sense to me than including the next-to-last day as the end.
I guess it could be a difference in meaning of "end": the caps (with stuff in the middle), or the last part.
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@djls45 said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Referring to the first and last days as the ends of a week makes more sense
Not unless you also refer to 6AM as "the other end of the day".
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@Maciejasjmj said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Not unless you also refer to 6AM as "the other end of the day".
But...midnight is the end of one day and the start of another. 6AM is like Monday o'clock. Unless you're on that weirdo calendar and then it's Tuesday o'clock.
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@Atazhaia said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Last time I did the dual boot install Linux must have set that automatically upon detecting the Windows install,
Ubuntu and Debian installers both do that IIRC.
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@boomzilla said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
But...midnight is the end of one day and the start of another.
And everything that comes after that immeasurably small moment of time is "the start of another day". Like, the entire Sunday.
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@Atazhaia said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Hm, now you mention it, there are plenty WTFs there...
Second one is Samsung Magician, which I don't know if it actually does anything useful whatsoever. Supposed to be able to speed up access to one SSD by using RAM as a cache
Wait . . . what?
So it uses RAM to cache an SSD, that is essentially made from RAM chips.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@boomzilla said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
But...midnight is the end of one day and the start of another.
And everything that comes after that immeasurably small moment of time is "the start of another day". Like, the entire Sunday.
Oh, now you're trying to change the definition of day that we're using?
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@boomzilla said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Oh, now you're trying to change the definition of day that we're using?
As long as it's in decimal time. Viva la revolution!
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@Maciejasjmj said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@boomzilla said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Oh, now you're trying to change the definition of day that we're using?
As long as it's in decimal time. Viva la revolution!
Oh, now you're not just weird, you're evil!
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@Maciejasjmj said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
As long as it's in decimal time. Viva la revolution!
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Neither of those are even remotely close to where I live.
Oh, and they take you through the entire "region-country-city" ordeal only to get the time wrong anyway:
It's very much 18:20 down here.
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@djls45 said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Referring to the first and last days as the ends of a week makes more sense to me than including the next-to-last day as the end.
I guess it could be a difference in meaning of "end": the caps (with stuff in the middle), or the last part.
The difference is in the number: "end" is the last part, "ends" means both sides of a section of space or time. I haven't heard "weekends" refer to a single [Saturday, Sunday] tuple.
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@El_Heffe said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Wait . . . what?
So it uses RAM to cache an SSD, that is essentially made from RAM chips.
Cache levels have been a thing for a while.
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@El_Heffe said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
So it uses RAM to cache an SSD, that is essentially made from
RAMflash chips.FTFY. Caching a disk makes sense, even for an SSD, because RAM is much faster than flash. Yes, there are SSDs that use RAM, but they require batteries or some other power source to keep the data intact when the computer power is off, and as flash has improved, they have become ever less common.
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If it's a cheap SSD without lots of on-board RAM, there might be a decent performance boost by caching the logical-to-physical address mapping in system RAM.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@boomzilla said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Oh, now you're trying to change the definition of day that we're using?
As long as it's in decimal time. Viva la revolution!
If it's decimal time, "Vive la revolution!". If it's "Viva", it should be "¡Viva la revolucion!"
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@HardwareGeek said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@El_Heffe said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
So it uses RAM to cache an SSD, that is essentially made from
RAMflash chips.FTFY. Caching a disk makes sense, even for an SSD, because RAM is much faster than flash. Yes, there are SSDs that use RAM, but they require batteries or some other power source to keep the data intact when the computer power is off, and as flash has improved, they have become ever less common.
More to the point, RAM is faster than, say, SATA-3...
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@Steve_The_Cynic TRWTF is that Windows already caches disks in RAM, and I'd bet moderate amounts of money that Samsung's stuff doesn't do it any more effectively.
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@flabdablet said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@Steve_The_Cynic TRWTF is that Windows already caches disks in RAM, and I'd bet moderate amounts of money that Samsung's stuff doesn't do it any more effectively.
What are the odds that Samsung disabled Windows cache?
:samsung: Look at how much better our performance numbers are now!
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@flabdablet said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@Steve_The_Cynic TRWTF is that Windows already caches disks in RAM, and I'd bet moderate amounts of money that Samsung's stuff doesn't do it any more effectively.
Guess they are double-buffering it then. Double-buffering is good for graphics, after all. Why not take this winning concept from graphics and apply it harddrives? They could benefit from better performance, after all.
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@cvi said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
Guess they are double-buffering it then.
Triple buffer it!
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@boomzilla said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
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Life imitates art, apparently.
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@antiquarian said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@boomzilla said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
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TIL: The Onion predicts the future.
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@flabdablet said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
@dcon said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
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The sad part is that apart from the sarcasm in the title, this is something that could have been posted in any newspaper.
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@ben_lubar said in Clock sync, Windows 10 edition:
The sad part is that apart from the sarcasm in the title, this is something that could have been posted in any newspaper.
And it probably was back in 2010.
