Apple 'fixes' a bug
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The trick is pretty simple: When email comes in to the iOS or macOS Mail app it gets scanned for calendar invites prior to being spam filtered. The invite is automatically added to the Calendar app, resulting in a notification.
Emphasis mine.
The fix? A 'Report Junk' button that exists only on iCloud. Y'know, instead of filtering for spam before scanning for invites, which would actually fix the issue.
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@RaceProUK said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
the iOS or macOS Mail app
I can think of a different way of fixing things… ;)
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@dkf said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
I can think of a different way of fixing things… ;)
Your way sounds like it lacks courage.
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Bonus it-just-works convenience:
In a perfect world the update would have come along with an iOS and macOS update as well, but no such luck: You can only report junk iCalendar invites through the iCloud web interface
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@boomzilla
People just need to be more courageous and attend some of these random meetings. Broaden their horizons, enlarge their pen 15s, meet new people!
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@dkf said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
@RaceProUK said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
the iOS or macOS Mail app
I can think of a different way of fixing things… ;)
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This is why I like Macs, everything is just intuitive and just works
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@bb36e well, did you ever see an easier way to receive spam?
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@Onyx said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
did you ever see an easier way to receive spam?
Sign up to Linkedin
No, I'm not going to congratulate someone I worked with for 6 months, 8 years ago, for getting a new job
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@Jaloopa Hey, at least that can be useful! When it tells you to congratulate half of your management you know it's time to abandon
shipshop.
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@izzion said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
Broaden their horizons, enlarge their pen 15s, meet new people!
You forgot "loose pounds*"
* or dollars or euros....
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@Jaloopa said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
Sign up to Linkedin
Even easier: Just know someone who signed up for LinkedIn.
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@RaceProUK said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
filtering for spam before scanning for invites
Or, you know, NOT using input from one program to automagically create something in another program.
Even if it's from a trusted source, I don't need three appointments added to my calendar when I get an email from my mom with:
"Hi everyone. I want to have the family over for dinner. Which dates work for you? Dec 12th 5pm, Dec 13th 6pm or Dec 20th 6pm?"
You have an appointment "Dinner at Mom's at Dec 12th, 5pm"
You have an appointment "Dinner at Mom's at Dec 13th, 6pm"
You have an appointment "Dinner at Mom's at Dec 20th, 6pm"What, no I don't.
"Reply from: Lorne's brother. Lunch at Dec 21st at 12pm would work better for me."
You have an appointment "Lunch with brother, Dec 21st at 12pm"NO, stop that!
"Reply from: Lorne's sister. My kid has a recital on Dec 21st at 11am, but dinner on the 21st at 5pm would work for us."
You have an appointment "Nephew's recital, Dec 21st at 11am"
You have an appointment "Dinner with sister, Dec 21st at 5pm"FUCKING STOP!
Of course-- if they did that, they'd lose on out sweet sweet marketing data pilfered from your emails.
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@coldandtired said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
You can only report junk iCalendar invites through the iCloud web interface
Boy I sure love this trend where everything has 3 or 4 interfaces that are almost identical except each is missing a random set of features. It's so easy to explain to users!
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@anonymous234 said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
Boy I sure love this trend where everything has 3 or 4 interfaces that are almost identical except each is missing a random set of features. It's so easy to explain to users!
Bjarne Stroustrup once said (not exact quote but close enough) "my goal in life has always been to make a computer as easy to use as a phone. I suppose I've succeeded, because I can no longer figure out how to use my phone!"
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@anonymous234 said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
Boy I sure love this trend where everything has 3 or 4 interfaces that are almost identical except each is missing a random set of features. It's so easy to explain to users!
The article states, has have others, that they're going to release as updates for MacOS and iOS but just haven't yet.
It's still not the proper fix though.
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@Lorne-Kates it's more like having JPEG attachments automatically downloaded into your photos library and then being surprised when you find spam in it. Calendar invites are specific files that can be emailed and your mail client knows how to handle them automatically. It's not just trying to guess an appointment based on text cues from the message.
Gmail actually does let you create an appointment directly from an email, but it typically just puts a gray dashed underline under something that it recognizes as a date, and it doesn't actually create a calendar event for it unless you click on that and confirm that you want to add it.
It does know how to automatically set up events for certain types of stuff, like hotel and plane reservations, though. And it's pretty handy actually. But I'd assume they only do this for validated senders -- I certainly haven't gotten any spam calendar events in that way. Gmail already tends to be really good at catching spam though, so the fact that they figured out how to do calendar events without people getting them in spam doesn't surprise me too terribly much.
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@anotherusername said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
It's not just trying to guess an appointment based on text cues from the message.
It does that too on iCloud/iOS/macOS. Not quite to the extreme that Lorne suggested, but it does it. Just like Gmail does.
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@Jaloopa said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
@Onyx said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
did you ever see an easier way to receive spam?
Sign up to Linkedin
No, I'm not going to congratulate someone I worked with for 6 months, 8 years ago, for getting a new job
And I'm not going to congratulate some recruiters I've never worked with for getting a new job.
I wonder when they'll allow us to manage connections in groups? I might want to congratulate someone I know personally, but not from the recruiters or even some ex-colleague that I'm not very familiar with.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
Or, you know, NOT using input from one program to automagically create something in another program.
Not without user consent, anyway.
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@masonwheeler said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
Bjarne Stroustrup once said (not exact quote but close enough)
"C++ was a joke"
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@flabdablet Yeah, an oldie but a goodie.
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@masonwheeler The really funny part is that he's since managed to convince a lot of people that that interview is a hoax.
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@flabdablet It's like I like to say: C++ may not be the worst language ever created, but it is, without a doubt, the worst to ever be taken seriously.
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@masonwheeler Some people take Javascript seriously
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@Jaloopa Still not quite as bad as C++.
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@masonwheeler said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
@flabdablet It's like I like to say: C++ may not be the worst language ever created, but it is, without a doubt, the worst to ever be taken seriously.
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@ben_lubar said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
@masonwheeler said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
@flabdablet It's like I like to say: C++ may not be the worst language ever created, but it is, without a doubt, the worst to ever be taken seriously.
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Yes, esolangs are specifically why I made that distinction.
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@anonymous234 said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
@ben_lubar said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
@masonwheeler said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
@flabdablet It's like I like to say: C++ may not be the worst language ever created, but it is, without a doubt, the worst to ever be taken seriously.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
Of course-- if they did that, they'd lose on out sweet sweet marketing data pilfered from your emails.
How else do you think Google and Apple are multi-billion dollar companies? They gotta know when you are not at the house and for how long to keep their revenue stream going.
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@masonwheeler said in Apple 'fixes' a bug:
@Jaloopa Still not quite as bad as C++.
Has anyone made a Javascript interpreter in the C++ template metalanguage yet?
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@dkf Well there's https://github.com/kw-udon/constexpr-8cc for C, is that close enough?
