Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...
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So I found this page that purportedly tells which Thanksgiving foods people secretly hate, and I'm wondering how people match up.
To save you the trouble of paging through the slideshow, here's the list:
- Soup
- Cranberry sauce
- Dinner rolls
- Creamed onions
- Green bean casserole
- Turkey
- Plain vegetable sides
- Jell-O molds
- Sweet potato pie
So apparently the list was written by someone who only likes stuffing, mashed potatoes and gravy, candied yams, vegetables covered in cheese or au gratin, and pumpkin pie.
Personally, I love cranberry jelly (not as crazy about the kind with chunks and seeds in it, but whatever). I love green bean casserole, and it's my go-to to bring (seriously... you don't want that? GIVE IT TO ME... except actually, a handful of people always say "hey someone brought a green bean casserole? Yessssssssss!", and it always gets eaten). Putting turkey on the list is just disrespectful -- yes, it's often cooked poorly, but come on. Dinner rolls and sweet potato pie, while they shouldn't be keynote features, are nice little bits to pack in around the edges (and I really don't draw a distinction between pumpkin pie or sweet potato pie -- they're virtually identical). Oh, and they fail to recognize that "any and all bread" includes their beloved stuffing, so...
I can, however, say that I've never had the displeasure of meeting a creamed onion, and anyone who likes them can go ahead and keep them.
Anyway, what's your list? Anything from this one make it onto yours? Anything not on this list? On the other hand, what do you like to eat?
(Feel free to include any sort of seasonal foods you eat around this time of year, even if they aren't specifically for the holiday and/or you don't celebrate Thanksgiving.)
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@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
So I found this page that purportedly tells which Thanksgiving foods people secretly hate, and I'm wondering how people match up.
- Cranberry sauce
this stuff is table flipping awesome
- Dinner rolls
what? why?! these are aswesome for making mini buttery sandwiches!
- Creamed onions
- Green bean casserole
hmm..... tolerable, but absolutely the last thing i'll reach for if there's something else left on the table
- Turkey
prepare the bird right and it is juicy and awesome and amazing! brine the fucker then spatchcock it. mest fucking bird you ever will eat.
- Plain vegetable sides
veggies.
are.
awesome.
- Jell-O molds
meh. go for the pies first, the jello will keep.
i'mma still gonna eat it as part of the leftovers.
- Sweet potato pie
it's pie. pie is awesome.
sure, i prefer fruit pies more, but savory pies are good too.
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@accalia personally if I was going to put a pie on the list, it'd be mincemeat pie. The lame-ass fake kind of mincemeat that's just vinegary bits of apples and raisins... 'course that's the only kind of mincemeat pie I've tried.
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@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
mincemeat pie
that's about the third best lunch leftover possible!
@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
The lame-ass fake kind of mincemeat that's just vinegary bits of apples and raisins..
ooooh. yeah. fuck that right in its starhole.
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@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
I can, however, say that I've never had the displeasure of meeting a creamed onion, and anyone who likes them can go ahead and keep them.
Oh, yes, I will! And you can have my cranberry sauce.
I'll also say that eating sweet potato pie for dessert is . It's part of the meal. Dessert comes later, of course, after you've had a chance to digest some of the main meal.
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@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Cranberry sauce
I like real cranberry sauce – with actual cranberries in it, spread on some white turkey meat or by itself – not the shit-in-a-can that's pictured with the iFramely
@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Dinner rolls
My wife's dinner rolls are usually the first thing gone at the huge family dinner we have with my in-laws each year. They are sometimes even gone before the turkey and ham are finished cooking.
@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Creamed onions
Green bean casseroleEeewww.
@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Turkey
To quote Lilu Dallas:
ChickenTurkey good.@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Plain vegetable sides
Depends on the vegetable.
@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Jell-O molds
Who cares if it's a mold? It's Jell-O!
But yeah, Jell-O doesn't necessarily belong at a huge feast. Save it for some other dinner. Doesn't mean I won't eat it if it's there.
@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Sweet potato pie
I've never actually tried it, so I can't provide a meaningful comment here.
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@abarker said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Sweet potato pie
I've never actually tried it, so I can't provide a meaningful comment here.
Just imagine pumpkin pie and you're 99% of the way there.
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@anotherusername Sounds good, then.
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First their list:
- Soup
What's wrong with soup? I'm fine with eating soup at Thanksgiving, especially if it's a turkey+broth+veggies soup.
- Cranberry Sauce
Good stuff.
- Creamed onions
- Green bean casserole
Bletch.
- Turkey
Well sure it tastes bad if it's cooked wrong! That's why you cook it right and eat the dark meat plain and the light meat with mashed potatoes and gravy.
- Plain vegetable sides
??? Yum!
- Jell-O molds
A staple. What's this person's problem?
- Sweet potato pie
My opinion doesn't really count, but I don't like pumpkin pie and sweet potato pie tastes the same to me.
But a personal hate: stuffing. Take that awful soggy bread-and-herbs nastiness away from my presence! Ew! Also pecan pie isn't good either.
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@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Jell-O molds
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@pydsigner said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Also pecan pie isn't good either.
Blasphemy! However, whipped cream is required.
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@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@abarker said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Sweet potato pie
I've never actually tried it, so I can't provide a meaningful comment here.
Just imagine pumpkin pie and you're 99% of the way there.
Hmm...actually, I guess I was thinking of sweet potato casserole before, which is a very different thing.
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I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic for Thanksgiving, which is good because not only does it mean I'll be eager to induce a food coma throughout Christmas, if we did have Thanksgiving I might be expected to consume pumpkin.
Pumpkin has exactly one acceptable use, and we're three weeks past the only time that use is appropriate.
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@CarrieVS said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Pumpkin has exactly one acceptable use, and we're three weeks past the only time that use is appropriate.
Let's see: jack-o-lanterns, roasted pumpkin seeds, pumpkin pie.
I'm aware of at least three.
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@abarker said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@CarrieVS said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Pumpkin has exactly one acceptable use, and we're three weeks past the only time that use is appropriate.
Let's see: jack-o-lanterns, roasted pumpkin seeds, pumpkin pie.
I'm aware of at least three.
don't forget trebuchet ammunition.
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@abarker said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@CarrieVS said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Pumpkin has exactly one acceptable use, and we're three weeks past the only time that use is appropriate.
Let's see:
jack-o-lanternspumpkin sheet cake,roasted pumpkin seedspumpkin sheet cake,pumpkin piealso pumpkin sheet cake.I'm aware of at least three.
FTFY
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@pydsigner said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@abarker said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@CarrieVS said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Pumpkin has exactly one acceptable use, and we're three weeks past the only time that use is appropriate.
Let's see:
jack-o-lanternspumpkin sheet cake,roasted pumpkin seedspumpkin sheet cake,pumpkin piealso pumpkin sheet cake.I'm aware of at least three.
FTFY
also pumpkin muffins with cream cheese icing on the inside
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@abarker said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
I'm aware of at least three.
Well I'm only aware of one use that doesn't require someone to eat it. Therefore none of the others are acceptable because pumpkins are foul and disgusting and loathsome and slimy and sickable. And I do mean literally sickable.
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@CarrieVS said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Pumpkin has exactly one acceptable use, and we're three weeks past the only time that use is appropriate.
Then you'll be happy to know that pumpkin pie is actually made from a variety of other squashes, and the closest most pies come to an actual, carve-a-face-on-it-and-set-it-on-fire pumpkin is the picture on the label of the can that was used to make it.
Plus, Thanksgiving was over a month ago. Why are you people late for everything?
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@DCRoss said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Then you'll be happy to know that pumpkin pie is actually made from a variety of other squashes
Probably still disgusting. Sweet potato is kinda OK, if you don't have any real potato, made into chips (fries). Barely edible as mash. Have never tried it in a pie and it doesn't sound remotely appetising, though I suppose I could scrape the squash off and eat the pastry.
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@DCRoss said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Then you'll be happy to know that pumpkin pie is actually made from a variety of other squashes, and the closest most pies come to an actual, carve-a-face-on-it-and-set-it-on-fire pumpkin is the picture on the label of the can that was used to make it.
I don't like pumpkin pie, but what are you even talking about? Pumpkin pies are definitely made from pumpkin.
Filed under: But is the second ingredient ginger ale or ginger beer?
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@CarrieVS mashed (precooked) pumpkin, sugar, egg, milk, and "pumpkin pie spice" (that's ground cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, allspice, and clove, typically, in an approximate 18 : 4 : 4 : 3 : 3 ratio). Finely blend it and dump it in a pie shell and bake until it sets. Top with whipped cream.
And sweet potato pie is basically the exact same thing with mashed sweet potato instead of pumpkin.
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@accalia said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@abarker said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@CarrieVS said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Pumpkin has exactly one acceptable use, and we're three weeks past the only time that use is appropriate.
Let's see: jack-o-lanterns, roasted pumpkin seeds, pumpkin pie.
I'm aware of at least three.
don't forget trebuchet ammunition.
I thought the pumpkins were quite nice this year
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@pydsigner said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@DCRoss said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Then you'll be happy to know that pumpkin pie is actually made from a variety of other squashes, and the closest most pies come to an actual, carve-a-face-on-it-and-set-it-on-fire pumpkin is the picture on the label of the can that was used to make it.
I don't like pumpkin pie, but what are you even talking about? Pumpkin pies are definitely made from pumpkin.
Halloween decorations are made from a large, round orange squash commonly called a pumpkin while pumkpin pie is made from a skinny, yellowish-white squash commonly called a pie pumpkin, butternut squash, or... Johnson!.
If you tried to mash up your mash up your halloween jack-o-lantern and bake it into a pie then you would end up with one of the most disappointing culinary creations since Titus Andronicus.
But it would give you a good reason to not like pumpkin pie.
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@El_Heffe said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
I thought the pumpkins were quite nice this year
Dammit man! I'm at work!
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@DCRoss said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@pydsigner said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
@DCRoss said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Then you'll be happy to know that pumpkin pie is actually made from a variety of other squashes, and the closest most pies come to an actual, carve-a-face-on-it-and-set-it-on-fire pumpkin is the picture on the label of the can that was used to make it.
I don't like pumpkin pie, but what are you even talking about? Pumpkin pies are definitely made from pumpkin.
Halloween decorations are made from a large, round orange squash commonly called a pumpkin while pumkpin pie is made from a skinny, yellowish-white squash commonly called a pie pumpkin, butternut squash, or... Johnson!.
If you tried to mash up your mash up your halloween jack-o-lantern and bake it into a pie then you would end up with one of the most disappointing culinary creations since Titus Andronicus.
But it would give you a good reason to not like pumpkin pie.
Uh... Where are you from again?
Butternut squash:
Pie pumpkin:
http://www.traderjoes.com/images/fearless-flyer/uploads/article-1879/pie-pumpkin.png
Regular/Jack-o-lantern pumpkin:
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@DCRoss I can just about get butternut squash down. I have never tried eating a carving pumpkin. The vegetable of which I was thinking when I complained about pumpkin was the eating pumpkin (pie pumpkin in your lingo, but we don't tend to do pumpkin pie over here. My mum puts it in risotto).
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@DCRoss said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
If you tried to mash up your mash up your halloween jack-o-lantern and bake it into a pie then you would end up with one of the most disappointing culinary creations since Titus Andronicus.
no... it always worked just fine when we did it. Now, granted, you don't want to use the same exact pumpkin you used for the jack-o-lantern... cutting into it and sticking a light inside doesn't exactly do good things to it if it has to be sitting outside for extended lengths of time. But if you didn't cut into it, just sitting on your porch for a few weeks shouldn't hurt it. Even freezing is ok, as long as you don't let it continue sitting there if it thaws back out -- they start to rot pretty quickly after that.
Just remove stem, pulp, and seeds (clean the seeds and reserve them for toasted pumpkin seeds), hack it into big enough chunks to fit in a baking pan (or pressure cooker), probably add just a bit of water (enough that it doesn't burn on the bottom) and cover (foil or lid), turn the heat on until it's tender, peel the skin off, puree the flesh, and use in any recipe that calls for pumpkin.
And @pydsigner is correct; a butternut squash is a completely different animal.
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@CarrieVS said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
My mum puts it in risotto
Pumpkin risotto does sound kinda nasty, TBH.
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@anotherusername It's just as nasty when she makes soup with it. It's the pumpkin flavour, not the risotto, that makes me gag.
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@CarrieVS pumpkin soup is nasty -- I've had it.
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@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
it always worked just fine when we did it
It'll have less flavor. Breeding them to grow big means they produce less sugars than usual, and you have to compensate for that. But it's definitely the same plant.
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@anotherusername said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Soup
Is good.
Cranberry sauce
The simple jelly stuff is good. I don't personally care for the kind that has cranberry pieces in it.
Dinner rolls
Are also great. I probably put way too much butter (and honey) on mine than is healthy, though.
Creamed onions
I had to open the link to see what these are. They look like they might be ok. It looks like it should fall under "Soups", though.
Green bean casserole
Is good.
Turkey
Is often too dry, and so requires lots of gravy and mashed potatoes. The dark meat is good, though.
Plain vegetable sides
Meh. Veggies are ok. I like corn.
Jell-O molds
Plain jello or maaayyybbeee with fruit pieces for me.
Sweet potato pie
I don't think I've ever had it. I couldn't care less for sweet potatoes, though, so I doubt I'd like it.
I don't like pumpkin pie, but I'm very glad that other people like it. They can have it all.
My family has had a tradition of making and eating the Big Meal on Wednesday, leaving Thursday free for games and fun. There's always plenty of leftovers, so the food only needs to be reheated (or eaten cold) whenever someone gets hungry (or just wants to eat something). And we make lots of pies. Lots and lots and lots of pies. One year we counted and had (I think) 34 pies. Apple, pecan, pumpkin, chocolate, lemon, blackberry, raspberry, peach, etc. You name it, we probably had it. And almost all of them were homemade.
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I agree with whatever @accalia just said.
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If you make anything edible from a jack-o-lantern, I fucking hate you, and you deserve all the botulism, mouse-shit and road dirt you get from food-poisoned "food".
If you make anything edible from a large pumpkin you WOULD use for a jack-o-lantern, well, still fuck you and your bland, tough, nasty-tasting flesh.
Now, if you make anything from a PIE PUMPKIN (those smaller ones picked early and jam-packed with soft, sweet flesh), we can get along.
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@djls45 said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
[Turkey] Is often too dry, and so requires lots of gravy and mashed potatoes.
If you're doing the gravy right, you're basically just putting the juices that cooked out from the meat back into it (protip: the water you cooked the potato in before mashing is excellent for deglazing the roasting tin). There's nothing wrong with that.
Anyone using gravy bought from a store is
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@dkf said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Anyone using gravy bought from a store is
Even moreso when they use a "gravy packet".
Here's how you make gravy: take the drippings, add some water, some more spices, and season to flavor. Boil until thick.
Here's how you make "packaged" gravy: take the drippings, add some water, the gravy package, and season to flavor. Boil until thick.
So when you pay EPIC MEGABUX for that gravy packet, you're basically paying for a fraction of a cent's worth of spices and salt, and you're providing everything else yourself. But a fool and their money, I guess.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
you're basically paying for a fraction of a cent's worth of spices and salt
don't forget some cornstarch to cover the fact that i know you aren't boiling it down enough if you're buying the packet.
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@accalia said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
don't forget some cornstarch
Ordinary flour works fine, provided you've got something to shake it in with some water to make a fine suspension before adding to the sauce. (I've got an ancient tupperware thing that's perfect for this job. No idea what anyone else does.)
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oh great @Lorne-Kates , please bestow your wisdom on this unworthy chef: I can't seem to figure out how gravy works. I keep getting flakes of burned onion and tinfoil (from lining the pan) in my gravy whenever I try to make it from a roast. What am I doing wrong?
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@dkf said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Ordinary flour works fine,
yes, but cornstarch is cheaper, and you know someone who is going to rook you for 8 billion times the BOM costs on a packet of "gravy mix" isn't going to go premium on any of the ingredients if they can help it.
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@Yamikuronue said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
What am I doing wrong?
use a nonstick pan, like the pan with sliced onions instead of tinfoil, and make your husband do the cleanup after you slaves for hours to make (and then consume) the food?
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@Yamikuronue said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
I keep getting flakes of burned onion and tinfoil (from lining the pan) in my gravy whenever I try to make it from a roast. What am I doing wrong?
Tinfoil? Does your roast have an RFID chip you're worried about? =)
If you're going to line the pan, use heavy-duty tinfoil. It won't shred like normal stuff.
If the onions are burning, add a bit more liquid partway through cooking, just to keep them from doing that.
Consider making the gravy in a different pan. Non-stick was mentioned, but if you're going to do a lot of whisking and stirring, unless you have non-scratch, go with a normal pan.
Once you take the roast out, immediately deglaze with some hot liquid. That should break up the yum-yum stuff stuck to the foil. Dump it all into a pot. Anything that's really, really stuck onto the foil-- well, you can write it off.
If you don't like lots of bits-and-pieces, when you pour it into the pan, pour it through a sieve or metal strainer.
Proceed to make gravy.
NOTE: If you're going to make a roux-based gravy, set out the pan/pot, make the roux and THEN deglaze and dump the liquid into the pot.
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@accalia said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
yes, but cornstarch is cheaper, and you know someone who is going to rook you for 8 billion times the BOM costs on a packet of "gravy mix" isn't going to go premium on any of the ingredients if they can help it.
We tend to use Bisquick.
@Lorne-Kates said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Consider making the gravy in a different pan. Non-stick was mentioned, but if you're going to do a lot of whisking and stirring, unless you have non-scratch, go with a normal pan.
I have silicone coated whisks for this.
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@Lorne-Kates Thank you!
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@Lorne-Kates said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Here's how you make gravy: take the drippings, add some water, some more spices, and season to flavor. Boil until thick.
A bit of flour or cornstarch helps. I don't want it so runny that it just makes a pool on my plate.
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@pydsigner said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Uh... Where are you from again?
We already covered that. Pay attention.
Butternut squash:
That's Cucurbita moschata, a variety of squash related to crookneck squash and the traditional "pie pumpkin".
Pie pumpkin:
http://www.traderjoes.com/images/fearless-flyer/uploads/article-1879/pie-pumpkin.png
That's also Cucurbita moschata, a variety of winter squash related to butternet squash and crookneck squash.
Regular/Jack-o-lantern pumpkin:
These are Cucurbita pepo, a variety of winter squash, related to Acorn Squash and Zucchini. If they were a deeper red rather than orange they could be Cucurbita maxima, but they're still not the kind you would want to eat.
Every one of these is part of cucurbita, so they are all "squash". There is no technical definition of "pumpkin" and the US FDA's policy is that you can call any kind of squash a pumpkin and sell it as food as long as it's edible, but the same rules would allow you to make an entire pie out of orange rinds and the result would be about the same.
Decorative pumpkins are an entirely different species from the kind of squashes you use in pie. If you mix them up, you're going to have the wrong kind of pie.
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@DCRoss yeah, the fact is that most canned "pumpkin" is actually a variety of butternut squash. But it's still perfectly alright to use real pumpkins.
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@DCRoss said in Thanksgiving is almost here. And Thanksgiving means a food coma...:
Cucurbita moschata
If you want to get technical with species of food, meet Brassica Oleracea, also known as collard greens:
Not to be confused with Brassica Oleracea, also known as brussels sprout:
Not to be confused with Brassica Oleracea, also known as broccoli:
Not to be confused with Brassica Oleracea, also known as cabbage:
When we're talking about food and pets, the particular cultivar matters.