Nvidia Geforce Experience
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Nvidia seem to not want to fix the problem.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/51z342/geforce_experience_30_info/
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@lucas1 I have encountered the same problem.
But I think once you log in for the first time it works, so the logical step is to then block all things nvidia on the firewall.
Also I would post to their feedback site about how unacceptable this is, but that would require having an account :)
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Looking at the forums on nvidia it looks like they don't care.
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@lucas1 But to be honest the only thing you need "geforce experience" for is "shadowplay" high performance recording, which most people probably don't use.
Shadowplay has its own menu activated by keyboard shortcut, so I wonder if it works even if you don't log in.
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I think the regular nvidia control panel has options for updating drivers. It takes you to the download page, which is ok. Not sure if it automatically notifies you, but I don't play new games so that doesn't bother me :p
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I dont think i've ever used that bloated thing for anything. Is perf tuning really such a chore these days? I usually just set some reasonable middle values and play the fucking game.
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@cartman82 I used earlier versions only because it was installed already and I was lazy.
However, I don't need to sign into an account to access a program on my own machine, kthx.
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Yes, Nvidia is stupid.
However, if I really wanted to access that page, i would just click on the "Login with Google" button and i would be logged in using my Google account, which uses a fake name and which contains zero information that is even remotely related to me.
If you don't have a fake Google or Twitter account for just this purpose, you're doing the Internet wrong.
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@cartman82 said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
I dont think i've ever used that bloated thing for anything. Is perf tuning really such a chore these days? I usually just set some reasonable middle values and play the fucking game.
I usually set everything to max because I'd rather watch a pretty slideshow than have bad graphics.
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@ben_lubar said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
pretty slideshow than have bad graphics.
Like Dwarf fortress?
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@swayde said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@ben_lubar said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
pretty slideshow than have bad graphics.
Like Dwarf fortress?
I write most of my code in vim, so.
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@ben_lubar said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@swayde said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@ben_lubar said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
pretty slideshow than have bad graphics.
Like Dwarf fortress?
I write most of my code in vim, so.
You should write a Dwarf Fortress plugin for vim, then you wont have to boot any OS.
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I was thinking of uploading some of my Rome TW play onto YouTube and was planning on using this feature.
Though I have used fraps in the past for this sort of thing in the past.
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@Adynathos said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@lucas1 I have encountered the same problem.
But I think once you log in for the first time it works, so the logical step is to then block all things nvidia on the firewall.
Also I would post to their feedback site about how unacceptable this is, but that would require having an account :)
Well, in their defense, requiring an account can allow them show update to your display card without need to probe your hardware everytime. If you're like me who neither have Google nor Facebook account, just go and create a NVidia account to continue. I think you'll need one to register the warranty for your card(s), though.
Disclamer: I've eradicated NVidia hardwares from my home since many years ago and never planned to go back.
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@cheong i won't buy AMD cards because the drivers are always shite.
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@lucas1 I don't know if it's still true, but Nvidia used to be very, very much preferred over ATI/AMD for any kind of CAD work. Nvidia did OpenGL in hardware,
but ATI depended on their buggy drivers, making them both slower and less reliable. One particular specialty CAD program I used to use regularly, when someone reported a crash, the first question was always Nvidia or ATI, and the answer was always ATI. The solution was always Nvidia. The author eventually jumped through a bunch of hoops to get the program to work almost as well with ATI cards, but Nvidia Just Worked.
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@HardwareGeek said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@lucas1 I don't know if it's still true, but Nvidia used to be very, very much preferred over ATI/AMD for any kind of CAD work. Nvidia did OpenGL in hardware,
but ATI depended on their buggy drivers, making them both slower and less reliable. One particular specialty CAD program I used to use regularly, when someone reported a crash, the first question was always Nvidia or ATI, and the answer was always ATI. The solution was always Nvidia. The author eventually jumped through a bunch of hoops to get the program to work almost as well with ATI cards, but Nvidia Just Worked.Their hardware used to be good (and I think still is), but the software (driver) is not after their driver writer left somewhere between 2008 to 2010. There are multiple BSOD caused by their drivers, and then I decided when buying new display card I won't choose this brand again.
To be honest I don't know whether they've regained the quality in driver these years because I'm not using them. Every computers in my home has either ATi cards or intergrated Intel chips and so far so good, I have little reason to look back.
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I've found in the past (I used to run fedora / windows dual boot) that the nvidia drivers just work. I've read that they replace a lot of the Xorg stack. Fglrx in comparison usually warranted demonic incantations and risked borking your system that needed other mystical incantations to fix.
In the end nvidia got back the performance crown and I just stuck with their cards since even though I am probably a few extra quid on them.
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@cheong said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
Their hardware used to be good (and I think still is), but the software (driver) is not after their driver writer left somewhere between 2008 to 2010. There are multiple BSOD caused by their drivers, and then I decided when buying new display card I won't choose this brand again.
I've had the opposite experience: ATI's drivers still cause problems after all these years while nVidia's don't, on what should be good hardware. I wish these things weren't so hard. :(
As far as GeForce Experience goes, I stopped using it when it wanted a login. It was nice to be told when there was a driver update, but it's not like I haven't been checking websites for driver updates since the 90s or anything. I don't do any streaming or need their auto-optimization (which loved to pick options that don't work well on my machine) so whatever.
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@lucas1 said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
uploading some of my Rome TW play onto YouTube and was planning on using this feature.
The benefit of shadowplay is that thanks to close integration with the gpu it has greatly reduced performance impact (not noticeable for me).
fraps
The one that adds "recorded with fraps" text to the video? Use OBS instead!
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@Adynathos said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
The one that adds "recorded with fraps" text to the video? Use OBS instead!
or you could pay for fraps.... it's not that expensive.
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@accalia said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
or you could pay for fraps
I never had fraps, just saw the videos. If you want to monetarily support a video capture project, give the money to OBS which is open source.
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@cheong said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
I've eradicated NVidia hardwares from my home since many years ago and never planned to go back.
Nvidia GPUs are good for numeric tasks, like training neural networks.
Also have good drivers for Linux.
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@Parody said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
I've had the opposite experience: ATI's drivers still cause problems after all these years while nVidia's don't, on what should be good hardware. I wish these things weren't so hard.
nVidia's drivers have had a massive drop in quality in the last several years.
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@powerlord debatable. Not one BSOD, not one single driver crash in over a year.
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@accalia It's also ancient, and can't record things in Vulkan.
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@Magus said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@accalia It's also ancient, and can't record things in Vulkan.
-shrug- news to me.
all i know is the fix to 'annoying watermark" is "pay the developer money"
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@lucas1 I had the misfortune of having to upgrade my nVidia drivers because at least one of Blizzard's games was really crashy with the old ones (to the point where it blue-screened and restarted the system).
I went through several different nVidia drivers released this year to fix it and experienced all of the following:
- Video driver would randomly crash and restart.
- System totally locking up while playing .mp4 video.
- Completely blanking out the left (primary) monitor when SLI was enabled.
These were from 3 different driver revisions and each driver had only one of these bugs.
I eventually went onto Reddit's /r/nvidia to find out which of the recent drivers was the most stable. Which was the version 3 back from the then-current version, which is the one that blanked out the monitor when SLI was on.
So, despite having two video cards, I now run with SLI off as it was the only way to get a stable video driver that Blizzard's games wouldn't crash.
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@powerlord SLI is shit, and has always been shit. Run one good card instead of two.
It worked fine in the Voodoo 2 era.
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@lucas1 Next time I get a card (which will probably be soon) it will be just a single card.
Edit: Mind you, the driver versions with the other crashing issues I tried both with SLI on and off because SLI defaults to off when you switch driver versions.
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@Adynathos said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@lucas1 But to be honest the only thing you need "geforce experience" for is "shadowplay" high performance recording, which most people probably don't use.
Shadowplay has its own menu activated by keyboard shortcut, so I wonder if it works even if you don't log in.I kind of want to find this out, but I don't want to upgrade. I sure hope so because if I have to create any sort of account to use Shadowplay I'm going to be FUCKING. PISSED.
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@Adynathos said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
Nvidia GPUs are good for numeric tasks, like training neural networks.
Also have good drivers for Linux.
That's not what Linux Torvalds says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmfDaxYhi9I&feature=youtu.be&t=2937
Edit: Fixed the video link because the dumbass software here fucked it up.
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@accalia said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@Magus said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@accalia It's also ancient, and can't record things in Vulkan.
-shrug- news to me.
all i know is the fix to 'annoying watermark" is "pay the developer money"
I know another - complementary - fix.
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@Adynathos said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
The one that adds "recorded with fraps" text to the video? Use OBS instead!
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@El_Heffe that comment was more to do with the mobile chipsets.
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@Adynathos OBS does not like some games.
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@lucas1 said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
Nvidia seem to not want to fix the problem.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/51z342/geforce_experience_30_info/
What problem? The fact that it's absolute and utter shit?
Here's what my GeForce Experience experience has been so far:
- On two different PCs the automatic upgrade from the non-shit version failed. It uninstalled the old version and then crashed while installing the new one. I had to manually download the installer which actually worked.
- It requires a fucking account.
- Upon giving up and deciding to create a throwaway account it told me registration has failed and I should try later.
- Once I finally created an account, it proceeded to offer me a driver update. Upon downloading and trying to install it, it told me that "installation failed". No other details...
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@cartman82 said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
I dont think i've ever used that bloated thing for anything. Is perf tuning really such a chore these days?
It depends tbh. On say DOOM, Crysis 3 or anything that pushes the System quite hard it is worth it to get the 60FPS for my monitors while having things look nice. I don't know what half of the settings mean anymore.
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@lucas1 said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
Nvidia seem to not want to fix the problem.
What problem? I assume "requiring an account to access GeForce Experience", but you didn't mention it in the first post.
Was your post moved from another thread? Am I missing context?@cheong said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
Well, in their defense, requiring an account can allow them show update to your display card without need to probe your hardware everytime.
And if I have multiple machines?
And if I get a new card?
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@Zecc said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
Am I missing context?
A bit, yes. @lucas1 kinda sorta doxxed himself in his original post. The original post linked to his blog, where he was complaining about the fact that the "GeForce Experience" application now requires users to sign into the service, with no option for using without login. Given the "enchanting" time certain of our users have had with unintentionally giving away too much PII, I suggested he remove the link (personal blog on a vanity domain, waaaaay too much info available), which he has done, but unfortunately without putting his original complaint back into the first post.
As a quick question, @lucas1, have you tried using the tool whilst not connected to a network of any kind?
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@tufty said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
As a quick question, @lucas1, have you tried using the tool whilst not connected to a network of any kind?
No, I just gave up with it.
I was thinking about building a WinForms / WPF app after profiling the old application http requests. But it seems my use case for the feature is somewhat unusual after reading the forum posts.
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@tufty said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
A bit, yes. @lucas1 kinda sorta doxxed himself in his original post.
It was a case of me not knowing how to use my smartphone, correctly.
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@tufty said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
personal blog on a vanity domain, waaaaay too much info available
remove the link
But if the blog is on public internet so the sensitive info is still leaked?
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Of course it is. However, it's not leaked here, because there's no link from user @lucas1 of http://what.thedailywtf.com and his personal blog on http://www.everybodyiveevermetaretotalcunts.com, and thus no link to his real name and job writeup, which give a pretty much direct link to linkedin and a list of employers, amongst other things, DNS information which give an IRL address, etc etc
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Well it looks like I will need to be more careful with copy and paste on the iphone.
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@Deadfast said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
@lucas1 said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
Nvidia seem to not want to fix the problem.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/51z342/geforce_experience_30_info/
What problem? The fact that it's absolute and utter shit?
Here's what my GeForce Experience experience has been so far:
- On two different PCs the automatic upgrade from the non-shit version failed. It uninstalled the old version and then crashed while installing the new one. I had to manually download the installer which actually worked.
- It requires a fucking account.
- Upon giving up and deciding to create a throwaway account it told me registration has failed and I should try later.
- Once I finally created an account, it proceeded to offer me a driver update. Upon downloading and trying to install it, it told me that "installation failed". No other details...
ever since 3.0 if i let geforce experience update my driver for me it crashes my computer and throws it into a reboot loop until i force power it off then power it back on, then it's all like "yep, the driver install was successful"
i do NOT call crashing my computer to a reboot loops successful!
of course if i tell it to just download the driver, and then i wander over to where it downloaded the new driver and launch it manually, it works perfectly, no reboot needed (and no forced reboot through crash either!)
i have no idea
is going on there.
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Pretty sure Geforce Experience just committed sudoku on my machine. I told it to run its update, which resulted in some error about some runtime in setup.exe, and now it's gone.
I am OK with this outcome.
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@cvi said in Nvidia Geforce Experience:
Pretty sure Geforce Experience just committed sudoku on my machine. I told it to run its update, which resulted in some error about some runtime in setup.exe, and now it's gone.
I am OK with this outcome.
so...... it played a puzzle?
did you perhaps mean seppuku?
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@accalia Yes. Also,
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