NO-Framework approach to PHP
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https://github.com/is73/php-nf
Frameworks are for corporate slaves and typing monkeys
Stick it to the man, like it's 1998!
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@cartman82 dude's an idiot.
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I real the title and immediately thought that I needed one of @accalia's gifs. Care to oblige @accalia?
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@Polygeekery said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
I real the title and immediately thought that I needed one of @accalia's gifs. Care to oblige @accalia?
Okay.... i'll play nice....
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@accalia You're amazing. Never stop being you.
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@accalia BTW, I am stealing that first one. It may make its way in to company correspondence.
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I've even seen PHP's creator Rasmus Lerdorf post about making "no-framework" PHP framework.
Filed under: Because it totally doesn't count if the framework was in a different language like JavaScript, right?
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@powerlord said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
PHP's creator Rasmus Lerdorf post about
What? he has a website and posts there just like regular folks? as if he has not done anything to be ashamed of?
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@powerlord Rasmus is a fucking tool. You don't need a router because Apache is one, apparently. Because I love duplicating my bootstrap on every fucking route.
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@Arantor said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
Rasmus is a fucking tool.
As evidenced by the fact that he created PHP.
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My preferred approach is a "no-php" approach to php.
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@Arantor said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
my bootstrap on every fuck
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=44393319
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@Arantor Rasmus is the Steve Balmer of the programing language design world.
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@cartman82 said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
@Arantor Rasmus is the Steve Balmer of the programing language design world.
Makes me wonder what you consider Brendan Eich.
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@powerlord Eichmann, surely?
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@cartman82 said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
@Arantor Rasmus is the Steve Balmer of the programing language design world.
I was really, really bad at writing parsers. I still am really bad at writing parsers.
We have things like protected properties. We have abstract methods. We have all this stuff that your computer science teacher told you you should be using. I don't care about this crap at all.
I'm not a real programmer. I throw together things until it works then I move on. The real programmers will say "Yeah it works but you're leaking memory everywhere. Perhaps we should fix that." I’ll just restart Apache every 10 requests.
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@Yamikuronue said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
@kt_ said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
I’ll just restart Apache every 10 requests.
Webscale!
It's only webscale if it's nginx, though. Apache is so 2000s.
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This code makes me feel so nostalgic.
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@kt_ said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
I'm not a real programmer. I throw together things until it works then I move on. The real programmers will say "Yeah it works but you're leaking memory everywhere. Perhaps we should fix that." I’ll just restart Apache every 10 requests.
Jam it!
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@tufty Not Adolf Eichmann I assume.
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PHP: a fractal of bad design
(This article has been translated into Spanish (PDF, with some additions) by Jorge Amado Soria Ramirez — t
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That article and some others actually getting so much attention actually improved PHP a lot. PHP 5.6 (6) and 5.7 (7) are pretty good.
Also PHP runs on the CLR now.
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@lucas1 said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
@tufty Not Adolf Eichmann I assume.
Nope, more like Adolf Hitler.
Haha! Godwin! I won this thread!
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@lucas1 said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
That article and some others actually getting so much attention actually improved PHP a lot. PHP 5.6 (6) and 5.7 (7) are pretty good.
Also PHP runs on the CLR now.
Peach pie is actually a nice project but it's far from production-ready, yet. There's an interview with the guys on .NET Rocks podcast, it's a nice one. ;)
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That is how I found out about it. It is one of those podcasts I listen to at work that my co-worker complains about.
When I was listening to the interview on .NET rocks the devs said "we don't program PHP" which set off alarms bells in my head.
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@lucas1 You know what they say about "assume".
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@tufty So it is Adolf Eichmann?
I dunno what a war criminal that escaped to Argentina and was abducted by Israel, so he could finally answer for his crimes; What does he have to do with PHP?
</responding in kind>
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@lucas1 said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
@tufty So it is Adolf Eichmann?
I dunno what a war criminal that escaped to Argentina and was abducted by israel has anything to do with PHP?
</responding in kind>
He is the PHP! PHP is 3rd Reich's way to avenge their losing the war!
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@lucas1 said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
What does he have to do with PHP?
Nothing. He invented Javascript, not PHP.
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@kt_ 5th Reich surely (the 4th reich was a thing).
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@tufty I know who Brendon Eich is.
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@lucas1 But you still have trouble following a conversation, don't you?
Tell ya what, why don't you go back to the pub and ask your mate @cockepilator to sign on and give your posts some likes?
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Oh, hang on, of course he's around.
(with apologies to smallfilms)
Well now, one day Emily found a thing
And she brought it back to the shop
And put it down in front of Lucas
Who was on the park bench, pissed out of his mind on diamond white as usual
But then Emily said some magic wordsLucas, dear Lucas
Old fat cunty fuck-arse
Wake up and look at this thing that I bring
Wake up, be bright
Be golden and light
Lucas, Oh hear what I singAnd Lucas vomited on it
And when Lucas throws up, his friend wakes up too
Professor Cockemperor, who was a very distinguished old pecker
He climbed down off his bookend and went to see what it was that Emily had brought
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But you still have trouble following a conversation, don't you?
You emphasised "Eichmann" ... obviously Brendon Eich isn't Eichmann ... but Adolf Eichmann was a war criminal.
So I said having a "dark sense of humour" I said "I hope it ain't Adolf Eichmann".
Maybe you are the one that has problems following the conversation.
Then I subverted your comment that was a reference to the rather stupid "Assume makes and ass out of you an me" that is usually said by assholes after they don't get what they want.
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@tufty If you are writing poem about me, I can only assume it is like the young lad pulling the girls hair to get her to notice him.
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@tufty Thanks for the spellcheck. Corrected. Upvoted!
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@tufty said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
@lucas1 But you still have trouble following a conversation, don't you?
Tell ya what, why don't you go back to the pub and ask your mate @cockepilator to sign on and give your posts some likes?
I'm flattered, but I don't live in Jolly Old England.
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@GodEmperor Neither does @tufty but he thinks everyone is racist because his local pub was like 20 years ago.
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@lucas1 said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
@GodEmperor Neither does @tufty but he thinks everyone is racist because his local pub was like 20 years ago.
Oh, so he's the English bloke that lives in France because he is better than them? WAC.
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@GodEmperor He keeps on trying to insult me in French, because I lived in Spain.
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@GodEmperor Well, seeing as I have you online, maybe you could explain how it is that you only ever appear when our mutual friend is around, you disappear when he disappears, and you spend your time in exactly the same threads as he does?
The casual observer might reasonably assume that you are, in wankypaedo terms, if not his sockpuppet, his meatpuppet.
It's actually quite cute, and goes to show that there is, indeed, somebody for everybody.
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@tufty Why do you know wank-paedo terms? I think there is projection here.
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@tufty said in NO-Framework approach to PHP:
@GodEmperor Well, seeing as I have you online, maybe you could explain how it is that you only ever appear when our mutual friend is around, you disappear when he disappears, and you spend your time in exactly the same threads as he does
Because I send a link on facebook messenger to him, when you are being a bellend.
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@lucas1 You realise that admitting to "calling your mate to back you up", especially when pretty much the entirety of that mate's interaction on this forum consists of "backing you up", makes you look like a very sad little man who nobody else on the forum thinks is worth backing up, don't you?
Mind you, I'd like to know exactly what it is that makes Mr Emperor so loyal. Do you give exceedingly good blowjobs, perchance?
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@tufty I didn't make him post anything. I didn't ask him to respond to you.
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Keep telling yourself that, sweetie.
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@tufty That is the truth. If you don't like it or don't want to believe it that is your problem tbh.
I tried being nice with you several times since our disagreement and tbh it hasn't worked. You keep on being a cock, your choice, not mine.
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