Frist! And Welcome
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This strikes me as another one of those "discoverability" faux pas: why on earth would I, with no prior information, think a glyph indicating a value indicating the time since a post was made - so it changes all the time - would a) be a time stamp of when the post was made or b) represent a (permanent) link to the post?
To be fair, the link symbol under the content is discoverable and provides exactly the same capabilities right now. Putting the same thing in twice, at least one of which is discoverable, is just a little wasteful and non-minimalistic but not actively harmful.
Thinking about it, the time indicator could be repurposed to provide a way to see history of edits of the message. This would be a capability that would be entirely beyond what CS does, and something at least conceptually coupled to the “time of submission”. However, I don't know if the underlying data model for Discourse currently is capable of supporting such information. (It's not as valuable a capability as for Stack Exchange, but there's (probably) less at stake here. OTOH, code is code and if the capability is there, exposing it would be really nice.)
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@codinghorror @dkf: I think the issue with "discoverability" isn't so much "I can hover around and/or click a bunch of things to see what they can do" versus "if I want to do something, what is the most likely place I should click/hover?"
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I think the issue with "discoverability" isn't so much "I can hover around and/or click a bunch of things to see what they can do" versus "if I want to do something, what is the most likely place I should click/hover?"
Playing “guess the magic place to click” isn't much fun, long-term. Clicking on the link icon to do things with linking, especially as it reacts to having the mouse pointer over it and has a tooltip, is “obvious”. Clicking on the time… isn't.
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Clicking on the link icon to do things with linking, especially as it reacts to having the mouse pointer over it and has a tooltip, is “obvious”. Clicking on the time… isn't.
In this particular case though, there is a very discoverable way to achieve what you want. The fact that there is a second way which is more opaque is kind of redundant, but nice for those power users who want to save a click or two here and there.
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the time indicator could be repurposed and provide a way to get the history of edits of the message
The edit pencil at the upper right does this. It appears when a post has been edited, and will be more bright red if the edit was recent, fading to grey when the edit becomes old. Here, I'll edit your post so you can see.
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@dkf's post now has two timestamps!
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Basically, right click the topic datestamp (the implied permalink), then do open in new window.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, this doesn't always open the new window at the exact same post. (FF 28.0 and Chromium 34.0.1847.116 on Linux)In fact, I just tried it with your post and it went to three posts prior.
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The edit pencil at the upper right does this. It appears when a post has been edited, and will be more bright red if the edit was recent, fading to grey when the edit becomes old. Here, I'll edit your post so you can see.
I'll actually raise my hand to say this is really cool.
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Yes, it seems to be linking to the current URL. Smells like a bug to me.
<div class='post-info'> <a href='#' class='post-date' {{bind-attr data-share-url="shareUrl"}} {{bind-attr data-post-number="post_number"}}>{{unboundAgeWithTooltip created_at}}</a> </div>Created a PR, but I guess I should run the tests. EDIT: Manual tests passed. Now for the automatic tests... Edit 2: Automatic tests passed.
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This is because of the change @riking checked in (not the one above, much earlier), it loads the target post in the middle of the browser, instead of at the top, logic being it is easier to see things in the middle.
There is also color fade as well.
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Having used Discourse a while now, I have to say that I like the Like mechanism. It feels a lot more accessible than the ones on other forums I've seen and used, a lot more like it is part of the normal way of using the forum system instead of something bolted on as an afterthought.
Much kudos.
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It'll take a little getting use to... but it does have the advantage of being actively developed and working in modern browsers.
But my latest IE6 browser is not working.
Fiddler Under: I am only kidding.
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What language is that in the menu? Something from Russia?
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None of those are Cyrillic letters so no. It looks like Slovenian.
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None of those are Cyrillic letters so no. It looks like Slovenian.
I never knew that Windows NT had support from Slovakian, since the country had not birthed at the time.
Filed Under: Velvet Divorce
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I never knew that Windows NT had support from Slovakian, since the country had not birthed at the time.
Neither was mine. We all talked using a series of grunts before. It was fun.
Filed under: UGH! HUR!, Slovenian, Slovakian, same thing
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Google Translate auto-detect thinks it's Bosnian.
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Try more than "Datoteka". Auto-detect doesn't work great on single words for picking a language.
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Google Translate auto-detect thinks it's Bosnian.
Chrome keeps saying a web app I'm building is in Slovenian instead of Croatian (which is incidentally damn near the same as Bosnian most of the time). I call shennanigans.
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Putting:
datoteka
urejanje
pogled
zgodovina
Orodja
PomocAuto-detects to Slovenian. The translation options seem to check out, mostly (File, editing, View, History, Tools, Help)
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I'd say it's perfect, actually. Edit doesn't look wrong, from what I can gather "urejanje" is really "editing", not "edit". "Edit" would be something very close to "uredi". I personally agree with that translation, fits better with how the language works than straight up literal translation from English.
Disclaimer: some guesswork involved.
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Filed under: even if you didn't write it
I wrote the driver it uses on Windows (and did some other very minor modifications to the source).
@locallunatic said:It looks like Slovenian.
It is.I never knew that Windows NT had support from Slovakian, since the country had not birthed at the time.
Slovenia predates NT 3.1 by two years (1991 vs. 1993). Slovakia only predates it by a few months (January vs. July).
@Onyx said:Filed under: UGH! HUR!, Slovenian, Slovakian, same thing
I personally agree with that translation, fits better with how the language works than straight up literal translation from English.
Yup.
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there should be an image herePoint that at @Nagesh, I'm not the confused one.
But he probably will be, if I add there's also a region in Croatia called Slavonija.
Filed under: Fucking hell how do you quote an image
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Quotes are pretty much all plain text at this time. Expanding them will bring in subquotes, images, formatting etc. Just click / tap anywhere in the top bar of a quote to expand it.
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Yes, it's the place where the company I work for used to have an office, but everyone there was so fucking incompetent that they fired the lot and closed the office.
In my college, they cheated off each other. Which was funny, because they all failed.
The professor knew they cheated, and let it happen, because they all failed.One of the foreigners got in front of class, gave this long chat about who knew what. It took me 1 hour to figure out he had only just made a sql server database.
The foreigners in our school were notorious for exaggerating... no.... outright lying on their resumes. Their take was that it was acceptable. That's just how they did things back home.
I just don't understand how their friends back home accomplish anything.
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We have quite a few international students. Hmm, no. We have shitloads of international students (because we can charge them more!) and most are fine. Even most from certain notorious countries are OK. The tricky places are China (the students are usually great once you've persuaded them that we really want to see what they're thinking about and doing, that we really do value original thought; they're bright enough, and once they grasp that we're serious, they blossom) and India (where sometimes you get a total ringer, and the ringers are always male for some reason).
The school doesn't like it when we fail someone, but it's usually not necessary. Most do more than enough to pass (even if sometimes only just). It takes a persistently arrogant lazy SOB to fail (or a mental breakdown or financial disaster at the wrong time, which we don't technically count as a failure) but we weed most of them out before they start. Of course, the pickier a place is, the more desirable it is as place to study. Nobody wants to go to Goatse Community College (Motto: “Wide open to everyone!”)
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My school had a ton of international students too, most of them graduate students. Very few of them were competent at anything. I had a long chat with several professors about this once and discovered it was primarily a political problem. They (international students) all came from the same city in a certain country notorious for bad programmers and poor tech support, and most went to the same 3 - 4 colleges, all of which were really diploma mills that handed out 4.0 GPA diplomas for Computer Science with the intention of helping these students come to the U.S. and get a good graduate degree in C.S. Problem is none of them actually learned anything, their families just bought the diploma for them and there is no easy or politically correct way to weed these guys out of the system. In a perfect system, most of them would fail out of graduate school, however by doing that somehow my alma mater would lose a ton of government grants needed to keep the department open, so the department has no choice but to pass these hordes of incompetent internationals who move on to plug up the jobs market.
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They (international students) all came from the same city in a certain country notorious for bad programmers and poor tech support
We get a better mix. That helps a lot. You guys could also try prioritising women students more; our experience is that once they figure out you're really taking them seriously, they're great. They work really hard and do their damnedest to really learn; they're about as driven and sensible as mature students (and I suppose have to be to overcome their domestic prejudices to be able to study abroad) and have never been a problem.
Have courage. Fail the ones who truly deserve to fail. (But make sure the fees are non-refundable first.
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sometimes you get a total ringer
Second and third net search results pointed me the right way ("any type of contestant in a game who is entered in order to cheat.", "in sports idiom, an impostor, especially one whose pretense is intended to gain an advantage in a competition"), but I thought I'd put this here anyway:Ringer, noun: 1. a person or thing that encircles, rings, etc. 2. a quoit or horseshoe so thrown as to encircle the peg. 3. the throw itself. 4. Also, ringers. Also called ring taw. Marbles. a game in which players place marbles in a cross marked in the center of a circle, the object being to knock as many marbles as possible outside the circle by using another marble shooter. 5. (Australian.) a highly skilled sheep shearer.
I'm specially fond of the last point.Filed under: progress thingamabob finally visible even with a draft open, yay!
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Filed under: progress thingamabob finally visible even with a draft open, yay!
Not quite yet.. or you are on better drugs than I am. ;)But soon! The progress bar needs to be visible when the editor is up, we've had that issue since launch in Feb 2013. @zogstrip is working on it.
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Not quite yet.. or you are on better drugs than I am.
Yeah, it worked once, in this thread, but then it never happened again.
I think it was a temporary "bug" (why isn't there a "rolling eyes" emoji?)
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Please post the source for this?
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You Sir, deserve a Star
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My school had a ton of international students too, most of them graduate students. Very few of them were competent at anything... so the department has no choice but to pass these hordes of incompetent internationals who move on to plug up the jobs market.
What's the school?
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What's the school?
A small state school you've probably never heard of. I'd rather not name-and-shame them because of that.
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Oh dear lord, he looks like an implausibly hyper-groomed version of me.
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hyper-groomed
Hmm. Not sure about those nose piercings though...
Here's a less groomed version.
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Oh, I didn't see his piercings.
Doesn't change how groomed he is, obviously.
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Who is this fancy lad @pjh keeps posting pictures of?
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'Keeps'? I only posted one.
Edit: And to answer your question, Jeremy Davis from Paramore.
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Well, that's what you get when you let your heart win.
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Initially read that as "Pantera"
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and this is what you get when you let your heart go on:
Celine Dion My Heart Will Go On – 04:35
— TitanicFan
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Who is this fancy lad @pjh keeps posting pictures of?
The first one was a Google Images result for "hipster."
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